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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356030#msg356030
« Reply #204 on: June 24, 2011, 04:55:30 pm »
There's also the fact that if a certain deck type becomes too popular, everyone will start using a deck which specifically counters that type and it will become less effective, thus there will be more of a reward anyway for coming up with strong but original decks.
Except that nobody really figured out a true counter to buffed-up Rainbow, Hermes AND Scorpio...
in theory, a good DBH can beat anything except immodecks. A good DBH with AMs can even beat immodecks, but I don't (yet) know how to squeeze those in...
Nope. First of all, Sanctuary is going to be common in Rainbows, because it answers well the most direct counter - Black Hole. Why skipping what would be good protection for nothing?
Second, upped environment has definitely more answers for DBH. Upped quanta producers and low cost PC is enough to stop DBH, as well as most shields, and with a 3x Mark you're going to consistently see those.
Third, DBH severely lacks damage. It always did, even with upped Amethysts. Having a 200 hp opponent means you're very much likely to not have enough BHs to stop them from starting, and DBH is all about denial, can't really put up a fight without that.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356048#msg356048
« Reply #205 on: June 24, 2011, 05:16:35 pm »
There's also the fact that if a certain deck type becomes too popular, everyone will start using a deck which specifically counters that type and it will become less effective, thus there will be more of a reward anyway for coming up with strong but original decks.
Except that nobody really figured out a true counter to buffed-up Rainbow, Hermes AND Scorpio...
in theory, a good DBH can beat anything except immodecks. A good DBH with AMs can even beat immodecks, but I don't (yet) know how to squeeze those in...
Nope. First of all, Sanctuary is going to be common in Rainbows, because it answers well the most direct counter - Black Hole. Why skipping what would be good protection for nothing?
Second, upped environment has definitely more answers for DBH. Upped quanta producers and low cost PC is enough to stop DBH, as well as most shields, and with a 3x Mark you're going to consistently see those.
Third, DBH severely lacks damage. It always did, even with upped Amethysts. Having a 200 hp opponent means you're very much likely to not have enough BHs to stop them from starting, and DBH is all about denial, can't really put up a fight without that.
It COULD work, but only if they got an early grav nymph and the other didn't play sanctuarys. But otherwise, i agree completely, it will be just about useless.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356100#msg356100
« Reply #206 on: June 24, 2011, 06:19:05 pm »
IMO a discord is faster than a sanc.
And don't forget that you'll be drawing 2x aswell.
I think I will try platinum with some sort of a deck like that, until we come up with good platinum farmers.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356115#msg356115
« Reply #207 on: June 24, 2011, 06:49:31 pm »
sanc is faster than discord because having 1/6 of your deck be sancs isn't as bad as having 1/6 of your deck be discords.

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356120#msg356120
« Reply #208 on: June 24, 2011, 06:58:47 pm »
sanc is faster than discord because having 1/6 of your deck be sancs isn't as bad as having 1/6 of your deck be discords.
nope, turn1 discord is totally possible with a lucky hand(we are talking about upped environment here). A T2 one is almost sure.

In a rainbow, you have to wait a SN to play your sanc unless extremely lucky with quantum pillars, and your mark is  :light
That places the first sanc around T2-3.

Moreover, most rainbow decks are 30+ cards so that's not really 1/6 of your deck being sancs.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356151#msg356151
« Reply #209 on: June 24, 2011, 07:44:39 pm »
You know what else this thread should branch off into? Sandwiches. I could really use a sandwich right now.

but on a serious note why does this matter? and why is this DBH discussion in this thread.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356413#msg356413
« Reply #210 on: June 25, 2011, 09:53:17 am »
I wonder if shards will be allowed ?
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356422#msg356422
« Reply #211 on: June 25, 2011, 10:20:08 am »
nice ideal zan just thought but maken 125 decks be farms at very least might help also t50 is pain as is hardly any decks able help anyone and such its just thought dont hafto tho ttyl

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356458#msg356458
« Reply #212 on: June 25, 2011, 01:39:02 pm »
I don't know about anyone else, but i am utterly confused by this...   ???
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356531#msg356531
« Reply #213 on: June 25, 2011, 05:38:03 pm »
nice ideal zan just thought but maken 125 decks be farms at very least might help also t50 is pain as is hardly any decks able help anyone and such its just thought dont hafto tho ttyl
Hes making top500 to get rid of farms, to make rares actually rare again.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356578#msg356578
« Reply #214 on: June 25, 2011, 07:13:41 pm »
nice ideal zan just thought but maken 125 decks be farms at very least might help also t50 is pain as is hardly any decks able help anyone and such its just thought dont hafto tho ttyl
Hes making top500 to get rid of farms, to make rares actually rare again.
okay no problem in that as said its ideal and if thats so he need up electum/ money or what ever cause takes about 150 dang matchs for single up card and its anoying big time

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg356585#msg356585
« Reply #215 on: June 25, 2011, 07:34:08 pm »
nice ideal zan just thought but maken 125 decks be farms at very least might help also t50 is pain as is hardly any decks able help anyone and such its just thought dont hafto tho ttyl
Hes making top500 to get rid of farms, to make rares actually rare again.
okay no problem in that as said its ideal and if thats so he need up electum/ money or what ever cause takes about 150 dang matchs for single up card and its anoying big time
Not quite 150... You should read before saying such things :P

I am also thinking about making the reward system dynamic as well. If the bronze league is played much more than the silver league the coin reward for the bronze league will go down and the silver league reward will go up.
On the other side the chance to get a rare card will remain constant, after a few consecutive wins (6 for bronze, 5 for silver ... 3 for platinum) a special bonus spin is awarded with a high chance (maybe even 100%) to win a rare card.

 

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