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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357416#msg357416
« Reply #276 on: June 27, 2011, 06:32:12 pm »
An idea I had to possibly fix this: What if your level not only determined the deck you can submit but also your options when you go fight against the T500. So you might fight against triple mark decks but at least you have a triple mark of your own. This seems quite exciting as it would really add another dimension to PvE deckbuilding.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357420#msg357420
« Reply #277 on: June 27, 2011, 06:36:46 pm »
Yeah. That's actually something I'm worried about; that the higher Leagues (especially Platinum) are just too frustrating to play. I'm pretty sure that even with those 5 copies of a card requirement I could make decks that are just about unbeatable, and even highly unfavourable if you take a direct counter. Just think about a beefed up Rainbow that has a better quanta balance, Supernovas and some superior choices, like Pulverizer instead of Eagle's Eye. Doesn't really matter which five cards he has to feature, the rest of the deck will still be insane.

An idea I had to possibly fix this: What if your level not only determined the deck you can submit but also your options when you go fight against the T500. So you might fight against triple mark decks but at least you have a triple mark of your own. This seems quite exciting as it would really add another dimension to PvE deckbuilding.
I have to say, I completely agree on this: compared to FG's (which sound to me like the ultimate opponent) the different arena decks are just way to hard, even compared to their reward. I mean it is just not fun to play a mirror match but with your opponent having a double draw and 200 hp's.
10 men's solution sound quite reasonable. To be honest I thought is would be like that (being, you build a deck to submit for top500, and when fighting top500 you get to use that same deck, including its buffs, instead of the normal deck you are using)
Another way to fix this, or maybe both can be used at the same time, would be to use the same skill point costs, but only give 1 extra skill point for each two levels (or simply using 10 levels for each league), that way, even the people in higher leagues have to chose what they improve, instead of just improving everything.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357428#msg357428
« Reply #278 on: June 27, 2011, 06:47:26 pm »
currently i am 8/68 games using various fg grinders (gotp time, ccyb, retrovirus)

I think the rewards need to be much better or
we can use 10 mens suggestion of also getting your t500 stats when playing t500.

either way i think something needs to make it worthwhile otherwise no one will ever play platinum.
We wouldn't necessarily have to get our full level's worth of stats when actively playing either. even if we got a smaller boost, say half our level of Skill points or something, it would probably be enough to make the platinum league viable. That would allow the higher leagues to still be more powerful and more difficult, so that a good deck submitted would still make money even with AI derpage.

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357435#msg357435
« Reply #279 on: June 27, 2011, 06:56:06 pm »
Even as we speak, Gold and Platinum's rewards go up and up, meaning that after the initial 'hype', fewer and fewer players play them.
(me included, I'm farming silver mostly. Leagues above silver get frurstrating very rapidly.)

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357440#msg357440
« Reply #280 on: June 27, 2011, 07:00:51 pm »
I'd even go for having the same level restrictions as the league you're battling. So, if you wanted to fight against Bronze League decks your deck would have to be level 0-19. That way it'll also offer different strategies when you're actually playing your deck.

Also, I would really like to be able to submit decks to lower leagues.. Being stuck in the platinum league and only the platinum league, kinda makes me wish my score was lower.... :(

And, these leagues put a lot of emphasis on FG farming... since Upped cards > score. There are a lot of 15k-60k people with 1000 upped cards.

Winning an unupped Fahrenheit after beating 3 tough Platinum decks in a row..... not worth it....

Anyways, just some 1-day thoughts.

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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357441#msg357441
« Reply #281 on: June 27, 2011, 07:02:23 pm »
Yeah, we really need upped card spins for the higher-level leagues, especially Platinum League.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357444#msg357444
« Reply #282 on: June 27, 2011, 07:09:39 pm »
Im the only guy who find gold/plat very hard with  a rush deck and plat very hard ?
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357448#msg357448
« Reply #283 on: June 27, 2011, 07:11:19 pm »
Im the only guy who find gold/plat very hard with  a rush deck and plat very hard ?
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357450#msg357450
« Reply #284 on: June 27, 2011, 07:12:04 pm »
I'd even go for having the same level restrictions as the league you're battling. So, if you wanted to fight against Bronze League decks you deck would have to be level 0-19. That way it'll also off different strategies when you're actually playing your deck.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357451#msg357451
« Reply #285 on: June 27, 2011, 07:14:06 pm »
For my part I find the area not worthy at all at this time and go back farming FG ^^
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357457#msg357457
« Reply #286 on: June 27, 2011, 07:29:56 pm »
For my part I find the area not worthy at all at this time and go back farming FG ^^
Actually, it's fun and shiny, but I see myself going back to ignoring it after a little while. Also, if I ever had to farm for rares - as in, new rares come out - I would just play Bronze with a super deck - dunno, vNG or something - so that I can reliably win 6 in a row. 3 in a row in Platinum is HARD.
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Re: A few details about T500 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27523.msg357458#msg357458
« Reply #287 on: June 27, 2011, 07:39:50 pm »
Atm I have managed to win 4 in a row in gold league but I won ONE match in plat.. Atm FG seems to be better in all point except if you manage to beat a top 10 with EM ^^ (impossible I think)
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