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1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092659#msg1092659
« on: August 15, 2013, 07:22:51 am »
These are the current NPCs for the starting areas:

Area Level >0 (palace)5 (area I)5 (area I, elite)
  :entropyerwin, lycanthropeChaos-Scout, Quantaless ElementalChaos Devlet
  :deathvirus, corpseBone Creep, ReversitePoison Knight
  :gravitygraviton soldier, graviton recruitGraviton guard squad, Graviton shock troopColossal Drake
  :earthantlion, zirconPirates, Antlion HerdGrinder
  :liferustler, wandering peasantforest spirit, lively catknight of healing
  :firefirebug, fast phoenixgraviton fire eater. spiritblazeknight of fire
  :watermind reader, jelly fishice wall, crawlerCalm Waters
  :lightphoton, apprentice of lightsolar shield, flaming angelproest of weak
  :airbutterfly, mosquitostorm caller, sevetflyn
  :timeundead soldier, familiar deja vuDune Walker, Dark GhostAnubis
  :darknessbat, pestShade, ScourgeDark Devlet
  :aetherspider lair, divine sparklocal storm, mirageImmortal Spirit
  :rainbowreingard, oracle squireGordon, WandererPrism




Currently in the trainer (CTRL+F5)


Suggestions for the missing ones? (???) You can still submit your own NPC candidate.
Comments?
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Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092661#msg1092661
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 07:35:44 am »
A bit of clafication, zanz.
  • Lvl 0 areas = starting areas for each elements (darkness palace, light palace, etc.) or the just the oracle? I'm asking because when I'm in darkness palace, the area level is 4.
  • I can see that in some areas, there are 2 copies of an NPC in one area. For example, there's 2 Pest and Bats in the darkness palace. Is this intended?

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Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092663#msg1092663
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 07:47:00 am »
    • I can see that in some areas, there are 2 copies of an NPC in one area. For example, there's 2 Pest and Bats in the darkness palace. Is this intended?

    Yes.


    So the starting areas feature the weakest decks, I presume? I would be willing to submit some decks (here or in the bestiary). I guess HP and maybe deck size wise they should be similar to Erwin, the only deck I so far know to be created by you?

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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092664#msg1092664
    « Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 08:00:50 am »
    Butterfly for :air? It could have dragonflies and butterfly effects

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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092665#msg1092665
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 08:06:57 am »
    Hmm.. I also found out that it is also possible to have more than 2 copies when you 'refresh' an area. Doesn't it seems a bit strange? Well, not strange, I know my vocab is terrible... but what I'm saying is I always thought it's going to be something like 1 area = fixed number of NPCs. So, I would feel it would be somewhat uniform throughout the entire map. Maybe I'm missing something here.  :-X


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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092666#msg1092666
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 08:11:05 am »
    Submitted these decks to the bestiary:
    Spoiler for Time Lvl 0:
    Undead Soldier
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    As you wander the dunes, you see a long past battlefield. Trying to find some loot, you search the corpes when suddenly the start moving again!

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    You find a treasure chest. As you open it, a swarm of scarabs surrounds you!


    Spoiler for Aether Lvl 0:
    Bard
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    A crazy bard jumps out of the bushes and attacks you.

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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092667#msg1092667
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 08:12:34 am »
    Hmm.. I also found out that it is also possible to have more than 2 copies when you 'refresh' an area. Doesn't it seems a bit strange? Well, not strange, I know my vocab is terrible... but what I'm saying is I always thought it's going to be something like 1 area = fixed number of NPCs. So, I would feel it would be somewhat uniform throughout the entire map. Maybe I'm missing something here.  :-X

    There is indeed. As Zanz stated before, NPC's will spawn, and despawn when beaten. (Btw, I kind of hope that will also make some NPC's 'rare', for example an NPC that has a certain shard, because people will search that one more often than others. Would give it a great RPG feeling.)

    Building a time deck at the moment, by the way.

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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092670#msg1092670
    « Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 08:50:58 am »
    Spoiler for Time deck I submitted:
    Familiar Deja Vu
    30 HP

    "Deja vus like to gather in large groups, compensating for their weakness with numerical superiority."

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    Spoiler for Water deck:
    Calm Waters
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    "The waters around here are calm and shallow. Creatures are numerous, but small and tame. Beware of the occasional flood though."

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    P.S.: I absolutely love majofa's deck below. Perfect AI deck. Well, except for the Discord, which I really wouldn't want to see with a level 0 opponent. :p

    @Blacksmith: The first deck is way too strong for an AI0. Taking Zanz's "Erwin" as a guideline, I highly doubt he wants a 12+ attack Pegasus there... the second is fitting, but too similar to the deck I posted 20 minutes before, is it not? ^^


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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092671#msg1092671
    « Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 08:54:36 am »
    Butterfly
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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092672#msg1092672
    « Reply #9 on: August 15, 2013, 08:55:22 am »
    Why not keep it simple? like standard decks for each element, like scrab decks with no pharao and pegasus+fierfly rush?

    Hp around 30
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    Maybe this could help.
    http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,50483.0.html
    « Last Edit: August 15, 2013, 04:15:54 pm by Blacksmith »
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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092674#msg1092674
    « Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 09:21:34 am »
    Update: If I'm correct about Blacksmith's Air deck being significantly too strong for a level 0 deck and all other decks are accepted, we only lack 1 Air deck and 1 Water deck now.

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    Re: 1.4 Starting areas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50781.msg1092676#msg1092676
    « Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 09:44:45 am »
    Submitted an Air deck:

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