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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg483558#msg483558
« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2012, 12:47:04 pm »
I think it would be nice for you to take the non-working deck away from the first post.

Many new players that are not aware of this may loose precious electrum coins tryin antimatter decks...

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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg486459#msg486459
« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2012, 08:57:09 am »
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i got this  together from the cards i had and i won against octane in 19 turns, killing him, though decking him out is also a viable option.

i had a shield in hand so he got used in the second turn, then i've kept rewinding his animated EE's with my eternity. He used up a lance to kill my (useless, this time) chrysaora pet and i got out one pharaoh (which was intended as lance fodder, so it would probably be better to use something really cheap). It looks like he didn't have any lances in his hand, as i could get few scarabs out before his fire buckler, so he just used his EE to kill my scarabs.

Hourglasses were meant as explosion fodder, but he targeted eternity instead, so this might need some more tweaking! But they helped a lot anyway, getting my cards out faster always helps.

I had too much light quanta, so maybe it would be better to have less pendulums and more towers.

From the looks of it, it seems it would work totally unuped and pretty reliable, but ofcourse needs more testing, the only downside to it is you really need at least 4 eternity's for it to be reliable, so it's not a no rare deck.


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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg486542#msg486542
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2012, 02:22:02 pm »
i used the original entropy/life deck and it worked just fine.  the fact that the AI will lance own creatures actually makes it a little better since you no longer have to include your own.  you just have to be more careful about when you antimatter.  i think something like the original entropy/light plus sancs instead of abominations should work. i dont think they should be removed, just put a warning note.  this patch isnt like the quantacap patch that made firestall totally unuseable.

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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg486558#msg486558
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2012, 03:03:03 pm »
You can add some sundials to draw explosions to protect eternity / sanctuary, the new priority will make SD the first target.
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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg492055#msg492055
« Reply #100 on: May 03, 2012, 03:10:04 pm »
Ive been using this deck pretty effectively against Octane. It is one of the posted counters to elidnis. I get an em most every time i play.

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you can play the towers and the Hourglasses early to draw out his explosions. use the hourglasses to speed through the deck and grab a pulvy to take out his unstable gasses. once you have a pulvy, an electrum hourglass and a dimensional shield, you are pretty set. Play your steamy with a quint (you will need about 8 to 10 turns to kill him with 1 steamy so dont overdraw). cast purify on yourself and miracle. and wait till the steam kills him.


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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg492092#msg492092
« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2012, 03:51:44 pm »
I have EMd Octane today using this modified version of the original counter:

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Sanctuaries and miracles help to survive despite Octane targeting anti-mattered Eagle-eyes.
It is still good to anti-matter them, they do not attack at least even if CC-d.
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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg500697#msg500697
« Reply #102 on: May 19, 2012, 01:35:30 am »
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Would this work?

Edit: Forgot about Bucklers...

Maybe:

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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg500731#msg500731
« Reply #103 on: May 19, 2012, 02:30:29 am »
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It works and EMs.

Save Deflags for Bucklers only.

Quints are for your Nymphs.  If you want to be safe early on with your Nymphs without Qunits, AM them.  Octane will not target them if AMd.

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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg504674#msg504674
« Reply #104 on: May 27, 2012, 04:57:41 pm »
Tried out the above decks, with some upgrades, didnt work out fast enough, no reflective and couldnt get purp nymph till turn 7 in which he killed me.

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Re: Oracle : Octane https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606.msg505577#msg505577
« Reply #105 on: May 29, 2012, 11:02:00 pm »
Tried Drake's second deck, with random upgrades, and some cards swapped to provide quanta spread. Didn't get a reflective shield until turn 4 and never got a nymph.

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Might as well post the one I use on my alt. If you're semi-upped, it might help ya. Just need Jade Shields and some rares (SoG's, Miracles), although it can win without Miracles with more Heals if it doesn't draw SoG's too late. I just had my worst game with it when I sat on very low quanta start and few SoG's, but I still won with EM.

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