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[Atico]

First of all, rainbows need PC because the ones that can't afford are rushers.  If say a phase shield is drawn, and they have no cc, they automatically lose 3 turns.  3 turns is more than enough for a game to end, and rushes lose all their advantages.  That is 1 permanent to dissamble an entire strategy.

Life hasn't got PC and CC and also must play against DimShield. So where is the problem? You wrote about situation which we have today with Life, Air, Time etc. So I didn't see problem when rainbows will have the same difficult against shields like Life. Probably You like rainbows

For the rest of post - I wrote, that some permaments maybe should be nerfed and DimShield is one of them. But I didn't see problem with protected DimShield by Mark when can't destroy it without protecting
What is more - I told about also about other changes when only few elements protect me against PC or CC. Aether can give other bonus.

We have only 3 mono elements with hard PC (Fire, Darkness and Entropy) - and it shouldn't be problem. But problem is that about 50% of decks use this cards. Upped Steal is often used than all Towers in game (beside QuantumTower)! It is horrible...

[OldTrees]

Very easy test - Add for Life card like Explosion which will cost 4 . I guarantee that it wouldn't be underused card.

By your metric of underused or mine? I expect that after the novelty (new card yay! or PC in life yay!) and distaste (Life got Hard PC? Boo!) wore off, the card would be underused relative to the current balance of Permanents, PC and anti PC.


Marks having effects like soft anti control (or other effects depending on theme) is a good idea.


PS: Life uses Heal rather than PC vs DimShield.

[Atico]

@OldTrees - probably we will never have a chance to see this experiment I think that PC for 4 or 4 will be of course less used than today (for example people wouldn't destroy pillars so number of uses will be lower) but still will be very good card. PC gives a big advantage and this is a fact. Steal cost 3 and it is one of the most used cards in game, often than Towers. All we know that it is OP card and Players didn't pack it for decks accidentally

Heal = 1 turn more, DimShield has got 3 turns, so it isn't good "counter".

And I agree that it can be soft anti control, I told only about initial concept. This discuss has got sense especially when Zanz wants to make The Trial with Marks

[Guizonde]

atico, you said:

Life hasn't got PC and CC and also must play against DimShield. So where is the problem?

i beg to differ on the CC part: the thorn shield/ carapace is soft CC, but it remains CC. combined with 's outrageous healing, only pure rushes, stalls, and one hit ko's can frag that element... that, and momentum, but i digress.

OldTrees, are you referring to the card idea Vines?http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18812.0.html

[OldTrees]

atico, you said:

Life hasn't got PC and CC and also must play against DimShield. So where is the problem?

i beg to differ on the CC part: the thorn shield/ carapace is soft CC, but it remains CC. combined with 's outrageous healing, only pure rushes, stalls, and one hit ko's can frag that element... that, and momentum, but i digress.

OldTrees, are you referring to the card idea Vines?http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18812.0.html

Thorn Carapace is hard (lethal) CC.

I was not directly referring to Vines. However I did mention soft PC and Vines is the 2nd most famous soft PC. Vines also is anti PC.

[Guizonde]

oh, and here i thought the difference between soft and hard was active and passive (squid's freeze is hard because it's activated, whereas the fire shield is soft because it's passive). my bad, got lost in jargon.

what's the most famous soft pc, then? truth be told, i've yet to see all the cards in the factory... "yet" being the keyword here

[pulli23]

soft = non permanent - freezing, delaying etc.. Hard is a permanent effect.

[OldTrees]

oh, and here i thought the difference between soft and hard was active and passive (squid's freeze is hard because it's activated, whereas the fire shield is soft because it's passive). my bad, got lost in jargon.

what's the most famous soft pc, then? truth be told, i've yet to see all the cards in the factory... "yet" being the keyword here

Rejuvenation is a recent card idea that was slightly more popular than Vines. It went through the polls so fast that I got whiplash.

[Laxadarap]

Just curious, isn't there a link or something that shows the percentage of cards used? May I have that? I really want to see how high up PC is.

[jacker]

The shard should allow only two activation, or (better) destroy only non pillar/tower permanent...

[Minamikaze]

I think it's okay with SoF having lower costs than other PC, because SoF is a SHARD. If it has to be balanced with regular cards, then other shards like SoR, SoP, SoFr need to be nerfed as well... Furthermore the shard can be countered by CC before it can make its full effect, while Explosion and Steal don't have this problem.

To make it benefits more to than , Making the BH aspect only seems to be a good solution:
"The shard is destroyed when HP>49, and if your mark is BH effect is triggered"
or
"If your mark is , using Accretion absorbs 1 quantum per element from the opponent. The shard is destroyed when HP>49"

What really is OP is the whole concept of PC. That's why the shard is considered OP.

[OldTrees]

I think it's okay with SoF having lower costs than other PC, because SoF is a SHARD. If it has to be balanced with regular cards, then other shards like SoR, SoP, SoFr need to be nerfed as well... Furthermore the shard can be countered by CC before it can make its full effect, while Explosion and Steal don't have this problem.

You are new. Rarity is no excuse for being overpowered. Many shards should be nerfed.
It recently dropped to 1hp. The majority of this thread was before that change.