[Official] Horned Frog | Giant Frog

[kurathedog]

+2 attack to a no ability creature for 0 extra cost?

Flesh spider: +3 attack to a creature with ability for 0 extra cost.

You were saying?

I'm not raging, life rushes annoy me, but it makes sense that life has great small creatures that swarm.

[skyreal]

Giant frog should be 4/4 in my opinion.

[omegareaper7]

if giant frog was 4/4, it would just be a cheaper, cockatrice, leave the card alone, good as is.

[LongDono]

I am not saying nerf it or anything but it's attack is 2.5 times bigger than it's cost..... Just saying...
Photon is the real bully here, just 0 cost for 1 attack? It is soooo much better. jk

[thatnewguy]

How about we let threads over 3 months old die? Mmmmmmmmmmmmk?

[Izzythemachine]

Must keep thread going... lol

What about Giant frog/Mitosis combo??? That would be insane. Epic synergy with bonds and huge swarming potential.

[willng3]

That combination is far more lethal with other cards really.  If you're just going to use it in a Mono rush then using Epinephrine would actually provide nearly the same results; plus the Frog's 3HP doesn't make it a very reliable target...

Leave the Frog alone.  isn't some element which can effectively control everything the opponent does, so a creature like this isn't an unfair addition.  If ever gets an aggressive form of CC (which contradicts what it stands for), then you can claim it needs a nerf.

How about we let threads over 3 months old die? Mmmmmmmmmmmmk?

[Absol]

After a discussion with RR regarding Crawler being UP in regards to the new Merc buff, we came to a conclusion that Frog is used as the baseline for balancing similar creatures, yet it's OP in itself. Comparing it to Blue Crawler and Flesh Spider, for example (and even Firefly).

So, the suggestion for the nerf is to make it costs 3 in both versions. As with Cocks, its cost raised to 4 in both versions, but that's in another thread.

Discuss.

[ARTHANASIOS]

Flesh Recluse, Phase Recluse, Elite Charger; all these creatures are as good as Giant Frog in comparison with thier unupped versions.
EDIT: Acutally, they are even more broken in comparison with Giant Frog!

[RavingRabbid]

Phase Spider 3 -> 4|2 (a bad ability)
Firefly 3 -> 3|2 (a bad ability)
Gargoyle 5 -> 5|3 (a skippable ability)
Mummy 5 -> 5|3
Antlion 2 -> 2|3 (a bad ability)
Hematite Golem 4 -> 4|6
Abomination 5 -> 5|5
Graviton Mercenary 4 -> 3|5
Flesh Spider 3 -> 3|3 (a bad ability)
Scarab 2 -> 2|x (since we're considering it standalone, let's give it 2 hps)
Blue Crawler 3 -> 3|3
Horned Frog 2 -> 3|3
Cockatrice 3 -> 4|4

[ARTHANASIOS]

  has creature cost advantage as it basic ability. After all, let's face it, is based on the Green coulor of MTG; cheap creatures but not impressive spells or permanents.
Btw, take a look in upped versions of some of these cards (eg. Recluses).

[Marsu]

Are you kidding me? Life is one of the most UP elements atm anyway. Besides:
Creatures aren't meant to be balanced. Elements are supposed to be.
Wishing for a nerf for horned frog because Abyss crawler costs 3  is like saying deflag should be removed from this game because Life doesn't have it either.
It really surprises me that the very simple - yet clever - concept of each element having its own weaknesses & strenghts has to be explained.