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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1019642#msg1019642
« Reply #228 on: December 05, 2012, 12:12:54 am »
I was referring to this deck:
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This is one of the most powerful decks in the War meta.

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1025407#msg1025407
« Reply #229 on: December 25, 2012, 02:19:26 am »
Okey, now I am convinced Dim-shield works with Eternity, but now it looked like Eternity stalls everything and Dim-shield only used when it becomes scary?

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1025412#msg1025412
« Reply #230 on: December 25, 2012, 02:39:40 am »
Dim shield must be nerfed with more PC addition into the game
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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1025801#msg1025801
« Reply #231 on: December 26, 2012, 04:52:21 pm »
Okey, now I am convinced Dim-shield works with Eternity, but now it looked like Eternity stalls everything and Dim-shield only used when it becomes scary?
Without dims, I don't think that deck would do well.
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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1026194#msg1026194
« Reply #232 on: December 27, 2012, 10:35:21 pm »
Dim shield must be nerfed with more PC addition into the game

I'd go with adding more practical ways around shields, and subsequently ways to get rid of those.
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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027077#msg1027077
« Reply #233 on: December 31, 2012, 01:02:41 pm »
So op. It beats every deck that doesn't have perm control.

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027091#msg1027091
« Reply #234 on: December 31, 2012, 01:57:23 pm »
I agree, it's ridicoulusly op.

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027102#msg1027102
« Reply #235 on: December 31, 2012, 02:15:05 pm »
Dim shield must be nerfed with more PC addition into the game

I'd go with adding more practical ways around shields, and subsequently ways to get rid of those.

That nerfs shields in general rather than just dims. That could make other shields UP while dim becomes balanced.
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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027306#msg1027306
« Reply #236 on: January 01, 2013, 07:53:04 am »
So op. It beats every deck that doesn't have perm control.
What about poison, DO stall, Momentum, Silence, Spell damage and QC?

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027436#msg1027436
« Reply #237 on: January 01, 2013, 09:29:22 pm »
What about
poison -> slower than SoW and phase dragons
DO stall -> Yes, but annoying
Momentum -> Yes, but lobotomizer, and less efficient than SoW.
Silence -> a weak niche card in the wrong element
Spell damage -> Weaker than SoW and phase dragons
QC -> Yes, but if QC lets mono aether get enough quanta to chain dim shields, it loses. That requires some pretty extreme lockdown, all of which is completely dead against a pillarless rush

Which is why dimshield should be nerfed. Even increasing the quanta cost by 1 or 2 would make it more susceptible to disruption, requiring more pillars and thus decreasing the power of the immortal mono-aether offense.

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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027446#msg1027446
« Reply #238 on: January 01, 2013, 10:19:01 pm »
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Re: dimension sheild https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42134.msg1027460#msg1027460
« Reply #239 on: January 01, 2013, 10:47:03 pm »
What about
poison -> slower than SoW and phase dragons->I play poison myself, not really.
DO stall -> Yes, but annoying
Momentum -> Yes, but lobotomizer, and less efficient than SoW.->Momentum did the quickest work I have seen against shields, really, sure not if they can do lobotomizer quick enough. SoW are better against no-shield though.
Silence -> a weak niche card in the wrong element->Still kill Dim-shield at the right time.
Spell damage -> Weaker than SoW and phase dragons->SoWs are spell damage as well, I played that for a while, and find that I should use SoSac and none phase dragons in my SoW Deck.
QC -> Yes, but if QC lets mono aether get enough quanta to chain dim shields, it loses. That requires some pretty extreme lockdown, all of which is completely dead against a pillarless rush ->If a QC is not working, of course it lose. also true you can name a counter on a counter, else that counter is OP itself.

Which is why dimshield should be nerfed. Even increasing the quanta cost by 1 or 2 would make it more susceptible to disruption, requiring more pillars and thus decreasing the power of the immortal mono-aether offense. ->I can understand why dim-shield draw so much hate, can't overcome with just more attack, but you should always have a second plan.

 

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