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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499295#msg499295
« Reply #2700 on: May 16, 2012, 01:44:06 pm »
Ciao ragazzi avevo qualche domanda da fare!!!!

Primo, per ottenere le carte rare tipo le weapon è tutto a fortuna dai roll degli AI3? Dagli AI4 avrei più possibilità di dropparne?
Secondo, potete consigliarmi qualche mazzo veramente buono per battere gli AI4? ho 3.4k gold ormai,ma di card ne droppo relativamente poche :(

Le armi e alcune altre rare (come miracle o ultharid) si possono ottenere dagli spin della AI3, dall'oracle o dallo special spin in arena; le nymph si possono ottenere dall'oracle o dagli spin normali in arena, mentre le shard da spin normali o special spin in arena.
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499300#msg499300
« Reply #2701 on: May 16, 2012, 01:48:26 pm »
ringrazio per il caloroso benvenuto :D parto subito alla grande volendo condividere con la community un mazzo secondo me fantastico, il ben noto Pestosis. Beh, per farla breve sto farmando la Bronze League perchè mi mancano le shards (sigh) e sto facendo score pazzeschi con questo mazzo. da quando tengo le statistiche sono 49W 1L di cui 16EM. (Prima ne avrò fatte un centinaio e perse massimo 8 ma siccome non tenevo le statistiche non è un dato affidabile) che dire, provatelo e fatemi sapere :) Cya!

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499320#msg499320
« Reply #2702 on: May 16, 2012, 02:40:39 pm »

Le armi e alcune altre rare (come miracle o ultharid) si possono ottenere dagli spin della AI3, dall'oracle o dallo special spin in arena; le nymph si possono ottenere dall'oracle o dagli spin normali in arena, mentre le shard da spin normali o special spin in arena.
ultherid= versione uppata di mind flyer, forse volevi dire l'arctic squid.
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499351#msg499351
« Reply #2703 on: May 16, 2012, 03:35:53 pm »
oggi l'oracolo mi ha dato una bella  :entropy nimph era un po che non ne vedevo e fà sempre molto piacere quando l'oracolo te ne regala 1  ;) , una domanda ma adesso che l'oracolo regala sempre la carta è piu facile ricevere delle ninfe? speriamo di si  ::)
teoricamente no, perché non cambia la chance che venga sorteggiata una carta, cambia solo il fatto se ti viene data o meno, che prima per le ninfe era la certezza, adesso vale per tutte le carte,

Penso abbia ragione Tom, però oggi io ho vinto una ninfa :fire:D :D :D

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499357#msg499357
« Reply #2704 on: May 16, 2012, 03:53:01 pm »
ringrazio per il caloroso benvenuto :D parto subito alla grande volendo condividere con la community un mazzo secondo me fantastico, il ben noto Pestosis. Beh, per farla breve sto farmando la Bronze League perchè mi mancano le shards (sigh) e sto facendo score pazzeschi con questo mazzo. da quando tengo le statistiche sono 49W 1L di cui 16EM. (Prima ne avrò fatte un centinaio e perse massimo 8 ma siccome non tenevo le statistiche non è un dato affidabile) che dire, provatelo e fatemi sapere :) Cya!

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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499374#msg499374
« Reply #2705 on: May 16, 2012, 05:00:02 pm »
Ragazzi scusate sto qualcuno sa perchè nella combo : Catapult+Amagio all'avversario non arriva il danno totale degli hp della creatura?
Tipo è a 25 e gli faccio 20 di danno, lo avevo portato a 90hp (la creaura) e gli ho fatto tipo 60 di danno(all'avversario) :S
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499402#msg499402
« Reply #2706 on: May 16, 2012, 05:31:36 pm »
Ragazzi scusate sto qualcuno sa perchè nella combo : Catapult+Amagio all'avversario non arriva il danno totale degli hp della creatura?
Tipo è a 25 e gli faccio 20 di danno, lo avevo portato a 90hp (la creaura) e gli ho fatto tipo 60 di danno(all'avversario) :S
La formula del danno è tipo (100*HP)/(100+HP)
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499421#msg499421
« Reply #2707 on: May 16, 2012, 05:53:19 pm »
Piccola nota: mi ero sempre domandato se nel mummy sor rewind convenisse usare il death mark e i gravity pendulum o viceversa.
Uno potrebbe dire che convengono i death pendulum (uppati) perchè si gioca la prima mummia più velocemente.
Un altro potrebbe dire che conviene il death mark perchè anche se esce una mano senza pendulum si riesce a giocare comunque, quindi è più stabile.


Afflitto dal dubbio, ho deciso di fare una prova col simulatore di Xenocidius.
1000 partite simulate per ogni mazzo, contro AI3.


I risultati dei winrate sono assolutamente inaffidabili, perchè l'AI non capisce come usare la combo e quindi ha dei winrate patetici contro l'AI3, roba del 10% circa.
Ma la parte che mi interessava è la velocità con cui vengono giocate le mummie, e per quello anche un'AI stupida va bene.
Quindi mi basta solo confrontare i TTW per capire chi è più veloce a giocare le mummie.


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Death Mark: TTW simulato 13.96
Gravity Mark: TTW simulato 13.82


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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499428#msg499428
« Reply #2708 on: May 16, 2012, 06:11:21 pm »
io sapevo 75*hp/(75+hp) con danno capsato a 75, ma forse hanno aggiornato...comunque non fa molta differenza...l'esito è che farai meno danno dei pv della creatura.

@manuz: studio interessante, ma purtroppo qui è la combo la cosa importante, quindi un ttw study solo sulle mummie non è affidabile al 100%, fatto sta che anche io giocavo mark of death + grav pend, e mi convinceva di più che mark of grav + death pend, ma era un'impressione personale non detata da nulla di statistico sotto...
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499431#msg499431
« Reply #2709 on: May 16, 2012, 06:14:37 pm »
io sapevo 75*hp/(75+hp) con danno capsato a 75, ma forse hanno aggiornato...comunque non fa molta differenza...l'esito è che farai meno danno dei pv della creatura.

Quindi giocare il deck con le catapulte è un pò na cagata mi sa :S

Cmq altra domanda ragazzi le relic che vinco dalle arene le posso solo vendere?non hanno altre utilità?
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Re: ITALIANI! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1881.msg499433#msg499433
« Reply #2710 on: May 16, 2012, 06:17:49 pm »
io sapevo 75*hp/(75+hp) con danno capsato a 75, ma forse hanno aggiornato...comunque non fa molta differenza...l'esito è che farai meno danno dei pv della creatura.

Quindi giocare il deck con le catapulte è un pò na cagata mi sa :S

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« Reply #2711 on: May 16, 2012, 06:49:35 pm »
ANNUNCIAZIO. ANNUNCIAZIO.

Il signor RavingRabbid, padre di tutti i vizi, trova che questa versione di questo mazzo, il cosiddetto Readiness Pharaoh o qualcosa del genere, sia una bomba pazzesca per la plat.
A farne le vittime è stato il secondo, ora quinto.

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