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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg476487#msg476487
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2012, 12:39:51 am »
There's not much else to say. Druidic/Jade Staff/Vampires/Vamp Stiletto/LS'd creatures attack and heal at the same time now due to the fix, which means you win the game while your HP is over max. If you were to heal exactly to 100 HP (from 95 with Jade Staff), you'd get EM, but the second you go over or under, you don't get EM.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg476677#msg476677
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2012, 10:20:13 am »
Why do all the Mono Lifes have Heal in them?

From experience I know that simply spamming Adrenaline on Horned Frogs(Cockatrice not as effective because attack higher) can outrush any Elder deck... no need to Heal, I usually have at least 40 health left at the end.

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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg476686#msg476686
« Reply #206 on: April 01, 2012, 11:17:07 am »
Why do all the Mono Lifes have Heal in them?

From experience I know that simply spamming Adrenaline on Horned Frogs(Cockatrice not as effective because attack higher) can outrush any Elder deck... no need to Heal, I usually have at least 40 health left at the end.
The Heals are there to get an EM at the end, as your electrum gain and score gain efficiency increases when you can EM quickly and reliably.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg480741#msg480741
« Reply #207 on: April 14, 2012, 03:10:28 am »
I know this deck is a bit outdated in terms of farming, but would you change this deck to incorporate jade staff since the EM bug was fixed?
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg480762#msg480762
« Reply #208 on: April 14, 2012, 03:40:02 am »
I know this deck is a bit outdated in terms of farming, but would you change this deck to incorporate jade staff since the EM bug was fixed?
There already is a version with Jade Staves, but it's not as efficient due to the speed lost from not using Longswords. Heals are generally more than enough to top off your HP for an EM.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg484080#msg484080
« Reply #209 on: April 20, 2012, 05:00:52 am »
I'm thinking of using USEMitosis with

-2 longswords
-2 heals
+2 jade staves
+2 elite cockatrices

Do you think this might throw quanta balance off...?
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg488554#msg488554
« Reply #210 on: April 27, 2012, 09:28:09 pm »
I'm thinking of using USEMitosis with

-2 longswords
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+2 jade staves
+2 elite cockatrices

Do you think this might throw quanta balance off...?

 The Longswords are needed as a 6 attack per turn for 1 quantum. That means they can be player right away, even if you have only 1 pillar/pendulum in your starting hand. The healing powers of the Jade staves is not very useful, since 6 Improved Heals are, most of the times, more than enough to grand you Elemental Mastery.
 However, all the variations of an upped mono-life rusher does wonders in farming AI3, so your changes will also work. Personally, I love playing this deck with two Longbows instead of Longswords, in order to be able to penetrate Wings shields.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg488754#msg488754
« Reply #211 on: April 28, 2012, 03:36:19 am »
is this still worth using if i can win platinum about 40 percent after about 25 turns?
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg488895#msg488895
« Reply #212 on: April 28, 2012, 09:36:16 am »
is this still worth using if i can win platinum about 40 percent after about 25 turns?

 It depends in what you want. This deck is extremely fast and gains EM extremely easily against AI3. If gaining 40 :electrum per match doesn't seem appealing to you anymore, then you will still have a 80-90% win rate against AI3 (maybe even more than 90%, LOL!) and you will have a great increase in your win-loses score. So, if you consider it is a sure and safe way to gain a few  :electrum AND lifting you score to new heights, then this is a really attractive deck!  :D
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg489457#msg489457
« Reply #213 on: April 29, 2012, 08:53:46 am »
sorry i should have been more specific. I meant score/hour.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg507595#msg507595
« Reply #214 on: June 04, 2012, 12:55:24 pm »
sorry i should have been more specific. I meant score/hour.
depends on your hp finish. I'd say yes, usem is better for score.
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Re: The Ultimate Speed EM Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg538721#msg538721
« Reply #215 on: September 03, 2012, 12:35:20 pm »
It is really good deck but is this need 2 long swords?

 

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