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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327839#msg327839
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2011, 09:46:57 pm »
Mind Card Creation
Doubt based Debuff
Some Form of Mind Control
Using the Hand as a resource

It seems like Mind has a Hand and Creature focus.
This would indicate that we view the Hand as the symbol for the Mind of the Elemental.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327843#msg327843
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2011, 09:50:12 pm »
not a bad idea, could go with an eye inside the hand: http://www.darkfiber.com/eyeinhand/
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327854#msg327854
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2011, 09:56:56 pm »
I would like feedback on the ideas below.
my idea of mind would be telekinesis and turning thoughts into matter (forget the term for that), this is where creatures could come from, as well as creatures which are thought to live inside a persons mind.

personally i only voted for mind as it has its own quanta pool, a necessity in my mind (no pun intended), but spirit would have been a better theme to go with.
Like moomoose I think it would be best if we had a new quantum pool that utilizes Spirit's mechanics.
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Nervousness
Insecurity
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Target creature gains the "Insecure" status.
Insecure - Creature has a 30% chance to delay itself for 3 turns everytime it attacks.

Anger
Inner Beast | Spectre of Vengeance
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3 | 4
Vengeful - Gains + 1 | + 0 for every 10 HP less than 100 that you have.

Imagination
Dream Edge
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Weapon : Deal 6 damage to your opponent each turn.
Creates a random Mind card in your hand each turn.

Forgetfulness
Dissolving Dream
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327863#msg327863
« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2011, 10:03:02 pm »
the emotions can in some cases be duo cards, linked with appropriate elements, :fire = rage for example.  in your spectre example could lower the initial cost of the card, make it an active ability to click and add atk, the atk added could be based off of the current hp %.  but your spectre is also fine as is mechanically it is interesting, just using it as an example at the moment.

and one idea for including sacrifice mechanics, maybe reduce your hp by 10% and have a target creature gain ~5-10 atk
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327874#msg327874
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2011, 10:13:13 pm »
I think hp is more a body cost/variable than a mind one.
What if Anger was tied to the number of cards in your hand. (Hellbent was a similar MTG term)

I think forgetfulness would describe sacrificing a card in the hand better than describing a quanta drain.

[No comment on balance yet because that will depend on the synergies in the set]
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327922#msg327922
« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2011, 11:00:31 pm »
attack based on the number of cards in your hand is pretty close to harpy in level 3
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327932#msg327932
« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2011, 11:07:41 pm »
the emotions can in some cases be duo cards, linked with appropriate elements, :fire = rage for example.  in your spectre example could lower the initial cost of the card, make it an active ability to click and add atk, the atk added could be based off of the current hp %.  but your spectre is also fine as is mechanically it is interesting, just using it as an example at the moment.

and one idea for including sacrifice mechanics, maybe reduce your hp by 10% and have a target creature gain ~5-10 atk
I like this idea, in the emotional aspects of manipulation by mind, it could thematically fit and be potential for synergies.
some of my ideas include:

Beserk: (could use  :fire if creature skill) Everytime creature attacks, It gains +2/-2. 50% chance it attacks its owner.
Its similar to Rage +acceleration in the case of either benefiting yourself or CC, but with a small dominance in CC rather than self benefit. you could still take the risk however. if you dare  :)

Fear: (could use a  :darkness activation if its a creature skill)
 40% chance creature doesn't attack and gains +0/-2.

Joy: (If creature based, could use  :life), Target creature's skill is replaced with growth. Cost of growth is equal to half the creature's cost (rounded up).
note: growth still uses  :water, just the amount needed is changed.








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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg327967#msg327967
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2011, 11:41:22 pm »
just throwing this out there for the Psi quanta/mark theme being the mind's eye:

something along these lines but with a slightly less real-ish eye and more stylized to fit in with the other elements
with the colors ranging from blue-purple
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg328376#msg328376
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2011, 05:22:29 pm »
Would this information help with any ideas for a new element?
http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy/
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg328387#msg328387
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2011, 05:29:50 pm »
Would this information help with any ideas for a new element?
http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy/
We are past that step. We are developing mechanics for the Mind element.
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg328398#msg328398
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2011, 05:50:03 pm »
If we were to Identify a color with Mind what would it be?
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Re: Project: The 13th Element https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25093.msg328469#msg328469
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2011, 07:43:03 pm »
If we were to Identify a color with Mind what would it be?
A pale blue, IMHO.

 

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