Anyone else find level 5 AI to be way too easy?

[Innominate]

I find HB easy with essence mono-aether just change my mark to earth and add 4 Enchant artifact, you're unstoppable mwuahahhahaha

How about Momentum? 

Yeah. How about Fire Shield, Spine Carapace, Gravity Shield, and even Dissipation Field? How about deckout because you have a bad draw and can't find a way past those shields? How about quanta denial? How about poison?

Okay, so maybe he exaggerated when he said "unstoppable", but mono-aether's doing me just fine at this point. Might throw in a lobo when I spin one, but I've got a decent win rate with no upgraded cards.

Maybe a few AI tweaks would be in order? The aether/light (Aethiel) I just played wasted phase shields repeatedly. Twice in three rounds, he played a phase shield and immediately played a hope (despite not having any light-producing creatures on either occasion). If he'd done it in the other order I might have ended up with a break in my own phase chain.

EDIT: A light/earth (Lumra) just healed me. Played a reflective shield a few rounds earlier, then, in one turn, healed itself (healing me due to reflection) and played a solar shield immediately afterwards.

[icecoldbro]

happens but i think HB should get a boost by getting 30% upgraded cards not only would they be slightly harder they would give better cards
also as a known HB grinder i would consider to eliminate the problem of monoaether vs gravity shield just by using some inmortals if u want my deck for grinding ai5 go to http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8056.0.html use has worked even vs gravity shields
look at last post by me

[xXaliceXx9994]

i won about 1 out of 10. i think it is just all in the deck design and your strategy.

[WhiteTigerShiro]

If anything Half-Bloods aren't easy enough.  As-is, fighting them is more trade-off than gain.  You compare them to AI3 in ease of defeat?  Yeah, let's go down that comparison:

100 Health vs 200 Health
~20 Electrum vs ~40 Electrum
40 Electrum for EM vs 80 Electrum for EM
1 Quanta from Mark vs 3 Quanta from Mark
Draws 1 Card per turn vs 2 Cards per turn

So in other words... so what if it's the same difficulty as the AI3?  It's the same reward, too.  In fact, it's a little less reward when you consider that the HB's reward will drop faster than the AI3's reward.  If you end the match with 50 Health, it's 15 Electrum vs 27 Electrum.  So in other words, unless you can EM the AI5 with 100% accuracy, you're reducing your Electrum per match.  In fact, your best-case-scenario against an HB is breaking even with what you would earn against a lower-level opponent.  To add insult to injury, the HB's usually have bigger and more varied decks, which means your odds of winning a spin are much lower.

Right now Half Bloods have one thing going for them:  A minute, minuscule, slim, long-shot of a chance to win an Upped card that you can either use, or sell for ~1000 Electrum to put towards upgrading a card you want upped.  Some say that this narrow chance alone is justification for farming Half Bloods, and maybe it is, but I really don't think that fighting a harder opponent should be such a trade-off.

Anyway, I'm getting a little off-note here.  Over-all, I don't find the HBs to be THAT easy compared to AI3.  In fact, I can take-down AI3 nearly every time where I sometimes lose to the occasional Half Blood.  If Half-Bloods were any harder to fight, they might as well be FGs.

[sSethia]

If anything Half-Bloods aren't easy enough.  As-is, fighting them is more trade-off than gain.  You compare them to AI3 in ease of defeat?  Yeah, let's go down that comparison:

100 Health vs 200 Health
~20 Electrum vs ~40 Electrum
40 Electrum for EM vs 80 Electrum for EM
1 Quanta from Mark vs 3 Quanta from Mark
Draws 1 Card per turn vs 2 Cards per turn

So in other words... so what if it's the same difficulty as the AI3?  It's the same reward, too.  In fact, it's a little less reward when you consider that the HB's reward will drop faster than the AI3's reward.  If you end the match with 50 Health, it's 15 Electrum vs 27 Electrum.  So in other words, unless you can EM the AI5 with 100% accuracy, you're reducing your Electrum per match.  In fact, your best-case-scenario against an HB is breaking even with what you would earn against a lower-level opponent.  To add insult to injury, the HB's usually have bigger and more varied decks, which means your odds of winning a spin are much lower.

Right now Half Bloods have one thing going for them:  A minute, minuscule, slim, long-shot of a chance to win an Upped card that you can either use, or sell for ~1000 Electrum to put towards upgrading a card you want upped.  Some say that this narrow chance alone is justification for farming Half Bloods, and maybe it is, but I really don't think that fighting a harder opponent should be such a trade-off.

Anyway, I'm getting a little off-note here.  Over-all, I don't find the HBs to be THAT easy compared to AI3.  In fact, I can take-down AI3 nearly every time where I sometimes lose to the occasional Half Blood.  If Half-Bloods were any harder to fight, they might as well be FGs.

Yeah, in my opinion, they are just a little training for FGs. I usually play them when I'm testing out a new FG deck to get the feel of it.

[nilsieboy]

it is realy to easy and a waste of time,i almost never win a card from it and fg and t50 give more cards so more money.

[7_Deadly_Sins]

What decks do you guys use to grind them really really fast.

[Daytripper]

The level 5 is not that bad, even though I have a standard almost mono deck. In 42 victories I did get 3 upgraded cards, and I did win electrums. Just as long as that keeps happening (1 upped card a 1100 electrums per 14 wins or so) it cannot be that bad. I also won some standard cards on the side, but I didn't count.

Anyway since I didn't count my other wins very well it's hard to say.

I never farm AI3 though... It's plain rubbish. Top 50 gives you more rares and my semi speed deck gives me some decent wins.   

[MYF]

Level 5 what I'm playing exclusively now, except for FG matches after using the Oracle. I use a Can Haz Moar Draw-Timebow variant which wins almost 90% of the time and I have gotten a number of upgraded cards just from playing repeatedly. My games take longer than the usual and I have to play actively, but I don't feel like going to sleep (like AI3 grinding) or banging my head in frustration (like having a long FG loss streak, I can't believe how often some of those suckers come out).   

[BluePriest]

If luck is with you then grinding AI5 is fine, howeverl its nothing compared to if luck is with you grinding ai6. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11830.0.html The rewards need to be increased imo. As whitetigershiro pointed out, theres hardly a good reason to grind them.

[MYF]

If luck is with you then grinding AI5 is fine, howeverl its nothing compared to if luck is with you grinding ai6. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11830.0.html The rewards need to be increased imo. As whitetigershiro pointed out, theres hardly a good reason to grind them.

True true. I often find that if I'm going to win anything for the day it will be within my first five or six matches. Just the other day I got five upped cards from AI5 in a 4-5 matches (I scored a double on one of the HBs). Later on in the day I played like 10 FG matches winning 6 and won nothing, so I quit and did something else  . 

[sSethia]

If luck is with you then grinding AI5 is fine, howeverl its nothing compared to if luck is with you grinding ai6. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11830.0.html The rewards need to be increased imo. As whitetigershiro pointed out, theres hardly a good reason to grind them.

True true. I often find that if I'm going to win anything for the day it will be within my first five or six matches. Just the other day I got five upped cards from AI5 in a 4-5 matches (I scored a double on one of the HBs). Later on in the day I played like 10 FG matches winning 6 and won nothing, so I quit and did something else  .

Winning 6 FG matches without any card rewards isn't uncommon. I beat about 9 FGs yesterday with 0 card winnings.