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League Archive / Re: Beginners League 2/2011
« on: July 13, 2011, 03:37:32 am »

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Still using this & kev's modded TADAbow to farm.  Great deck.  You may want to update the OP with the changes in the deck as well as listing them at this point.  It feels overly tight on :gravity with pulvy/sader, but the obvious change is to lose the charger and I'm not sure what goes there instead.  I'll put some thought into it later.  I should be studying :)

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Metamorphosis - Battle Results / Re: Round 1 - Battle Results
« on: July 11, 2011, 10:20:46 pm »
 :fire --->  :earth

kirchj33 - 3
nilsieboy - 1

Game 1: WIN

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Changes:
Sanctuary ---> Phoenix
Light Pendulum ---> Fire Pendulum
-1 Fire Pillar

Game 2 & 3: LOSS, WIN

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Changes:
Fire Shield ---> Deflag
Fahrenheit ---> Rage Pot
-1 Fire Pend

Game 4: WIN

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Changes:
Burning Pillar ---> Immolation
Firebolt ---> Iridium Warden

Final Deck:

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Grid - Battle Results / Re: Final Round Results
« on: July 11, 2011, 08:02:21 pm »
Grats SteppingStone81!  I loved this event and you were relentless each round.  I ran out of time to commit to keep you on your heels towards the late rounds, but I think majofa and others did well to keep the pressure on.  If I am not too lazy I will post an all-star deck round, highlighting the best/most interesting/fun decks for each round.

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ggabers,

I have no problem with the data or designing a deck with aggressive skips.  I think this is great.  There are two problems with this:

1. None of the other decks have been tested with aggressive skips in mind.  Again, as mentioned before, I don't forsee other decks passing this one in terms of efficiency if the data holds and the skip data is removed, but this will require more games (goal: 500) played before we can start taking this approach.

For more information on a possible plan for this approach, see here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.msg381203.html#msg381203

2.  I have no doubt the data you posted is fair, but in order to keep things on an even level, we have to exclude data posted by those that make the decks themselves.  This is so that there is not a testing bias involved.  I will add your deck to the study and I know Jenkar is already working on getting some data posted on the deck.

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ggabers,

I have no problem with the data or designing a deck with aggressive skips.  I think this is great.  There are two problems with this:

1. None of the other decks have been tested with aggressive skips in mind.  Again, as mentioned before, I don't forsee other decks passing this one in terms of efficiency if the data holds and the skip data is removed, but this will require more games (goal: 500) played before we can start taking this approach.

For more information on a possible plan for this approach, see here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,25609.msg381203#msg381203

2.  I have no doubt the data you posted is fair, but in order to keep things on an even level, we have to exclude data posted by those that make the decks themselves.  This is so that there is not a testing bias involved.  I will add your deck to the study and I know Jenkar is already working on getting some data posted on the deck.

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As i said in chat, upped LA = only DG as autoskip. gabriel and i agreed on this.
I can give the unupped autoskips i used, if it is wished.
No, I don't wish.  The standard protocol, as mentioned, will be to tease out skipped data once enough raw data is collected, based off some determined FGei.

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As i said in chat, upped LA = only DG as autoskip. gabriel and i agreed on this.
I can give the unupped autoskips i used, if it is wished.
No, I don't wish.  The standard protocol, as mentioned, will be to tease out skipped data once enough raw data is collected, based off some determined FGei.

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Before everyone gets their panties in a wad, I would caution that this data for LA is based off of two people who are skipping games without playing them out.  Even though, this makes sense mathematically vs. god that have 0% chance of winning, no other deck has this kind of data at this point.  We will need more testers submitting data for the top decks, this way we can mathematically tease out the skips according to god-specific FGei.  That being said, the LA data is so strong that I doubt it will be caught by any other deck even with this systematic data addition/manipulation.

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Before everyone gets their panties in a wad, I would caution that this data for LA is based off of two people who are skipping games without playing them out.  Even though, this makes sense mathematically vs. god that have 0% chance of winning, no other deck has this kind of data at this point.  We will need more testers submitting data for the top decks, this way we can mathematically tease out the skips according to god-specific FGei.  That being said, the LA data is so strong that I doubt it will be caught by any other deck even with this systematic data addition/manipulation.

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Duo-Decks / Re: Ray of Lulz / Hope
« on: July 10, 2011, 05:33:46 am »
Yay! Suboptimal decks are sooooo much fun.  Just kidding!  I do think crusaders are a good idea though.

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Metamorphosis / Re: Metamorphosis - Preparation
« on: July 09, 2011, 04:55:19 am »
You may want to send a reminder via pm.  It had been so long since sign-ups started that I almost didn't realize this was going on.

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