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Re: Graviton salvager | Graviton salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1028423#msg1028423
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 04:58:15 pm »
Here's some feedback to both of the salvagers:
In the current state (salvage triggers upon permanent destruction IF the creature is on the field) the gravity one is OP and the aether one is, well, UP. ( :gravity is continuous card advantage while  :aether doesn't really do anything)
Suggestion: Change the ability to ETB. That way both cards would have uses.

ETB?

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Re: Graviton salvager | Graviton salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1028425#msg1028425
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 05:12:55 pm »
Here's some feedback to both of the salvagers:
In the current state (salvage triggers upon permanent destruction IF the creature is on the field) the gravity one is OP and the aether one is, well, UP. ( :gravity is continuous card advantage while  :aether doesn't really do anything)
Suggestion: Change the ability to ETB. That way both cards would have uses.

ETB?
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So it would be triggered once, immediately when played, PU'd or Mitosis'd
Towers have an ETB ability to generate 1 quanta.
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Re: Graviton salvager | Graviton salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1028527#msg1028527
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 09:45:04 pm »
I personally do not like the Aether one too much. The gravity one seems pretty OP in it's current state

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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1029549#msg1029549
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2013, 12:31:35 pm »
what if i have full hand? (nightmared, SoB)? i guess, then salvaging is not working

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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1030469#msg1030469
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 08:32:43 pm »
Playing against an Half blood( :entropy  :gravity ) I noticed one thing: Salvaging is a passive ability (so it cannot be lobotomized) and you can apply butterfly effect to create a powerful PC and anti-PC at the same time.
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Re: Graviton salvager | Graviton salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1041529#msg1041529
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 05:52:22 pm »

What if for some strange reason, they destroyed their own permanent?

Possibly Shard of Patience???
This + SoP + Overdrive . Add in upped otyughs for strategic noming.

The truly beautiful part about this card is that salvage is a passive ability. Meaning it isn't removed by lobotomize and can have a secondary ability stacked on top of it.
Its actually one of my favorite gravity cards.

For a measly 1 :gravity you get:
A 1|5 creature -> hard to kill (especially with SoPa out) makes a good candidate for overdrive
Protects your permanents from destruction with being counterable by lobo liquid shadow
Provides a spot to overlay other abilities: Overdrive, Butterfly effect, Vampire

Its not gonna win games all by itself or anything, but for the price its awfully good.

I think it definitely outshines the unupped grav merc as a creature in the 5 hp class even with the recent cost reduction... kinda sad actually. That poor card is never gonna see use now.

Some additional usage notes for new users:
-Salvage does NOT stop steal (so steal is not truly just copying followed by destruction otherwise it would trigger this)
-Salvage is prevented by both freeze AND delay effects
-Salvage cannot be removed by lobotomize and will not be overriden if the creature gains a new ability
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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1060963#msg1060963
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2013, 09:26:25 pm »
Does mutants become Graviton salvager (or Aether, for that matters)? How does it works when earthquake hits?
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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1060975#msg1060975
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2013, 09:47:34 pm »
It returns only one pillar/pendulum when earthquake is played. I don't know about whether mutation can result in a salvager.

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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1061178#msg1061178
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2013, 11:27:09 am »
It returns only one pillar/pendulum when earthquake is played.
What if U have 3 out?

EDIT: Tested and it returns only 1 copy, so yeah. I wonder why.
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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1080565#msg1080565
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2013, 01:00:10 pm »
Salvagers only return one Pillar if you're targetted by Earthquake.

I don't know if this is an oversight or deliberate. I'm mostly just pointing it out :P
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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1080567#msg1080567
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2013, 01:04:41 pm »
What if you have an upped sundial, pulvy and this on the field? You constantly destroy and get back the sundial after stalling your opponent?

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Re: Graviton Salvager | Graviton Salvager https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45357.msg1080569#msg1080569
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2013, 01:06:47 pm »
It has to be destroyed by your opponent, as seen on the card.

 

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