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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225188#msg225188
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2010, 07:00:26 am »
"...so choose whom* to sacrifice carefully."

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225189#msg225189
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2010, 07:17:15 am »
I think the damage ratio is too low and this card is too weak
you have to play a Catapult, then play a Massive Dragon which does 8 damage every turn and activate the skill for only 18 damage
you lose much more for throwing a Titan, that wasted 3 cards in total, for only 23 damage
while unstable gas can deal 20 damage by itself
I agree. The only cost-effective way of using this card that I can think of is Voodoo Dolls, which does 14 damage, which is not impressive at all. And due to the way the formula works, stacking Basilisk Blood increases the damage by very little once the creature has more than 30 HP or so. Unstable Gas is much better for direct damage.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225195#msg225195
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2010, 08:06:03 am »
Unstable Gas is much better for direct damage.
But it's stopped by 2 shields and you can't use it in mono decks.
In mono gravity the catapult with unupped armagio does 16 damages.
And I'm pretty sure our crazy deck builders here will come up with amazing build using it.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225198#msg225198
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2010, 08:25:45 am »
But it's stopped by 2 shields and you can't use it in mono decks.
Mono air with elite firefly.

Anyway Catapult is not effective at all. Let's see sacrificing a 499 HP creature only deal 37 damage. Do you know how much effort paid to make such creature?

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225200#msg225200
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2010, 08:32:10 am »
I'm afraid it barely helps for mono gravity, but is epic in rainbows, just have something creature creating (malignant cells work), an Earth Nymph and a Catapult => win!

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225204#msg225204
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2010, 08:57:59 am »
Anyway Catapult is not effective at all. Let's see sacrificing a 499 HP creature only deal 37 damage. Do you know how much effort paid to make such creature?
There is a Reason why trebuchet in real life never threw 50 ton projectiles.

The card is ok as is, but might be nice to get more out of a Chimera or larger creature.

Suggestions and/or
 - Make it able to hit random opponents creature or the player with a 1 in all chance to miss.
 - Make it do a random value between 0 and the sacrificed creatures HP.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225208#msg225208
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2010, 09:12:13 am »
It may also be usefull in a scarab swarm to bypass shield.

Basilik blooded gem finder seems a nice target too in terms of cost effectivness.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225211#msg225211
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2010, 09:25:50 am »
It may also be usefull in a scarab swarm to bypass shield.

Basilik blooded gem finder seems a nice target too in terms of cost effectivness.
Scarabs! Never thought of that, brilliant, just imagine Osiris with this ;)

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225213#msg225213
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2010, 09:32:03 am »
It may also be usefull in a scarab swarm to bypass shield.

Basilik blooded gem finder seems a nice target too in terms of cost effectivness.
Scarabs! Never thought of that, brilliant, just imagine Osiris with this ;)
Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh launching things on a Catapult? Sounds like a certain children's card game to me XD

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225223#msg225223
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2010, 11:12:30 am »
wow.

1, Stall with DimShield.
2, PU a couple Armagios.
3, Play this.
4, ? ? ? ? ?
5, PROFIT

throw in a a few massive dragons and/ or flying titans for fun.
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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225224#msg225224
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 11:13:36 am »
But it's stopped by 2 shields and you can't use it in mono decks.
Anyway Catapult is not effective at all. Let's see sacrificing a 499 HP creature only deal 37 damage. Do you know how much effort paid to make such creature?
Futile effort is futile. I see no problem in that, if you know there is no use.

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Re: Catapult | Trebuchet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17670.msg225229#msg225229
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2010, 11:30:05 am »
It says sacrifice THE target creature? I think it should be changed to be your own.
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