Just say no!

[nerd1]

Just say NO to oraclebows! Arena is meant to be a deckbuilding challenge, and just sticking a card into an oraclebow is NOT a challenge! make farming more fun! Oraclebows=NO!
quote this if you agree.

[ninetyfools]

Just say NO to oraclebows! Arena is meant to be a deckbuilding challenge, and just sticking a card into an oraclebow is NOT a challenge! make farming more fun! Oraclebows=NO!
quote this if you agree.

NO!

[Calindu]

Over 2 days of farming gold league, I saw no oraclebow, none.You better revise your definition for oraclebows.

[nerd1]

Over 2 days of farming gold league, I saw no oraclebow, none.You better revise your definition for oraclebows.

an oracebow in my opinion is any 2x rainbow deck used that would work with or without the oracle card. I specify 2x because that's what a lot of oraclebows I've seen use.

[Elite arbiter]

So literally any well composed rainbow at all.
Well composed because if the oracle card doesn't work with the rainbow, its not put together well. And if it doesn't have x2 Dex and the deck is in gold league, it sucks by definition except in very niche cases.

I'm sorry, but I can't really agree to an outright ban on all rainbows. They're mean and can be hard to deal with, but they aren't even the most powerful deck type. See: Death Stall

And the way you defined "Oraclebow", its literally impossible to put together a mono-rainbow deck without it being this. Give me a mono-rainbow deck that is otherwise if you disagree with this point. If you were saying put a ban on those "30 card insert your oracle card skeletons for easy arena deck" that saps creativity out of the process, I could agree with that more. But I can't agree with a ban on rainbows.

Mono-rainbow is a term for a deck that is fully rainbow, as opposed to a half rainbow half water deck, or a half entropy half rainbow deck.

[nerd1]

actually, if I had my way, there WOULDN'T be any rainbows in any of the leagues, but as I doubt I can get that to happen, I will try to revise my definition of oracle bows again.
a rage quit deck with 2x deck that has no need for the cards from the oracle, and they don't matter in the scheme of things, but can still use them.

[Elite arbiter]

Yeah, I think you're talking about the generic 30 card skeleton insert-your-own-card thing that kills creativity. Although I don't know what you have against rainbows, they aren't even the worst thing around anymore.

But can you give me an example of an oraclebow by this definition? The only way I can see this being true is if the oracle card is near useless on its own, Ex Rustler.

Also, Rage Quit Deck? (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3807.0.html)

[Calindu]

actually, if I had my way, there WOULDN'T be any rainbows in any of the leagues, but as I doubt I can get that to happen, I will try to revise my definition of oracle bows again.
a rage quit deck with 2x deck that has no need for the cards from the oracle, and they don't matter in the scheme of things, but can still use them.

And if you get a nova or quantum pillar?Make a mono?

[nerd1]

actually, if I had my way, there WOULDN'T be any rainbows in any of the leagues, but as I doubt I can get that to happen, I will try to revise my definition of oracle bows again.
a rage quit deck with 2x deck that has no need for the cards from the oracle, and they don't matter in the scheme of things, but can still use them.

And if you get a nova or quantum pillar?Make a mono?

no, you build a freakishly weird deck that still uses them, quantum pillar: disssapation sheild stall, nova/ 'sup nova: ball of lightning buff deck!

[Van Helsing]

Hi

Anyone is free to play any deck. If players abuses one kind, other players will play cards vs those combos. Its called the metagame.

So what's the problem exactly?

1.- Discord + black holes stompy rush?

Play sanctuaries, black holes otyugh monos, shards, explosions steals and other hate can slow them a lot. Deck in some hate to creatures.

2.- Rush speedbow

Put more hate on your deck. All elements have hate cards and strategies versus criatures. Shields and hate agains their weapons.

3.- Combo raimbows

Just need to rush faster

[nerd1]

Hi

Anyone is free to play any deck. If players abuses one kind, other players will play cards vs those combos. Its called the metagame.

So what's the problem exactly?

1.- Discord + black holes stompy rush?

Play sanctuaries, black holes otyugh monos, shards, explosions steals and other hate can slow them a lot. Deck in some hate to creatures.

2.- Rush speedbow

Put more hate on your deck. All elements have hate cards and strategies versus criatures. Shields and hate agains their weapons.

3.- Combo raimbows

Just need to rush faster

The thing is, if players just play speedbows or something, then even if you win every time, you will get really bored, and that ruins the fun. I want people to use novel, interesting decks, even if I loose to them.

[Van Helsing]

I understand what you say.

Don't you find more boring mono  or mono  ?

I think those 2 decks are the most used everywhere. Don't you find those are plain decks? I think it's worst a typical mono crusher than a raimbow.

The problem of raimbow VS monos or duos is the quantum curve. Raimbows empties the hand at turn 2/3, while other decks the evolution o casting cards is more progressive.