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Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286924#msg286924
« on: March 09, 2011, 02:33:30 pm »
I just wanted to point out that, contrary to popular belief, a turn 1 kill IS possible. It's actually possible to deal 375 damage on the first turn, without abusing any bug (but with some supernatural luck). Here's how it goes:

Turn 1, Player 1:
Starting hand: Ball Lightning, 2 Quantum Towers, 4 Chaos Power
Play BL
Play 2 QT and gain at least 4 entropy quanta (1 chance out of 761008)
Play 4 CP and get the perfect +5 atk each time (1:625)

Turn 1, Player 2:
Hand after the first draw: 4 QT, 4 Pandemoniums (unupgraded)
Play 4 QT, gain 12 entropy quanta (1:8916100448256)
Play Panda, get the Twin Universe effect (1:11)
Play Panda, TU both BL (1:121)
Play Panda, TU all 4 BL (1:14641)
Play Panda, TU all 8 BL (1:214358881)

Player 2 now has 15 BL with 25 atk each on his side of the field. 15*25=375, QED.
Trying to do this every nanosecond for 10 trillion years wouldn't be enough to have 0.00001% chance to achieve it, but who cares?  :P

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286932#msg286932
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 02:45:06 pm »
lol :P
Is your opponents turn is allowed to "first turn"? Hmm... ::)
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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286937#msg286937
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 02:55:11 pm »
Yes. I did it in trainer thanks to the "More Quanta" option. The game would display "Game length: 1 turns" (sic)


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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286938#msg286938
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 02:55:48 pm »
I hope "CS" means a new card buff, because I'm sure Chaos Seed HARMS your creatures, and it's CP that can make your creature go up in attack.


(Just teasing you. But you might want to fix that, buddy.)

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286939#msg286939
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 02:56:54 pm »
I hope "CS" means a new card buff, because I'm sure Chaos Seed HARMS your creatures, and it's CP that can make your creature go up in attack.


(Just teasing you. But you might want to fix that, buddy.)
Thanks. Fixed  ;)

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286943#msg286943
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 03:06:35 pm »
You should consider doing a forum search before undergoing this much work. :)

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7778.0.html

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286962#msg286962
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 04:28:01 pm »
You should consider doing a forum search before undergoing this much work. :)

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,7778.0.html
Math Gl1tch used on your quote is flawed, because it has 2 :entropy cost for Pandemonium, while it's actually 3 :entropy.

3 Quantum Towers+9 :entropy
Photon/Spark/etc0
Mutation-2 :entropyCrimson Dragon with +4|x = 16|x
Chaos Seed-1 :entropyParallel Universe effect with +4|x = 20|x
Pandemonium-3 :entropy2 Parallel Universe effects with +4|x = 20|x & 24|x
Pandemonium-3 :entropy4 Parallel Universe effects with +4|x = 20|x & 24|x & 24|x & 28|x
still gives nice 16 + 3*20 + 3*24 + 28 = 176 damage first turn.

With Oracle Pet, and changing Mutation to something else, it's possible to get >200.

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286972#msg286972
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 04:57:17 pm »
That's fun to imagine the scene ;)

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg286976#msg286976
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 05:08:00 pm »
pandemonium doesn't affect a creature that results from a TU, apparently..

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg287001#msg287001
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 06:03:03 pm »
pandemonium doesn't affect a creature that results from a TU, apparently..
that's a shame. it's great that you worked all this out mate :). i think this topic deserves a good place on the humour section ;)

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg287008#msg287008
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 06:13:43 pm »
It still works, 25 attack BL TU'd 4 times from pandemonium

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Re: Turn 1 kill https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22628.msg287106#msg287106
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 09:57:01 pm »
anyone ever heard of the infinite monkey theorem?
read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

for you lazy people: the infinite monkey theorem basically says that if an event is repeated an infinite number of times, an outcome, no matter how low in probability, will surely occur.

apply this to elements  :D

 

anything
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