Thematic Question: creatures and attacking

[Naesala]

Just curious, how does a creature with 0 attack attack an opponent after receiving buff. Som creatures I can mentally picture it, but others it becomes difficult. Growth creatures aren't included, as the buff could have just activated however they normally attack and makes some sense.

List of 0 attack creatures that dont grow in attack naturally: Fate Egg, Voodoo Doll, Iridium Warden, Chrysaora, and devourer

On the flip side, why do dune scorpion and deathstalker thematically have 0 attack, while their Life brother does? Why can some nymphs damage the opponent (and fairly well at that) but not others? Just curious.

[ralouf]

For examplea weak devouers who recieve blessing of the god can release a part of the power he got to attack opponenet, same for chaos power etc..

Dune scorp and deathstalker have 0 attack because one deal neurotoxin instead of poison which is WAYYYY better and the other deal 2 counter poison and combine fairly well with eclipse.

[Naesala]

For examplea weak devouers who recieve blessing of the god can release a part of the power he got to attack opponenet, same for chaos power etc..

Dune scorp and deathstalker have 0 attack because one deal neurotoxin instead of poison which is WAYYYY better and the other deal 2 counter poison and combine fairly well with eclipse.

1) So blessing and chaos power give creatures inherit divine/chaotic energy that they release in blasts a la Ki blasts? acceptable I suppose

2) That doesnt address the thematic, it addresses the balance of the cards themselves. I know -why- their attacks are 0, just not how it works.

[dragonsdemesne]

I can't really think of a good thematic reason for the dune scorpion/deathstalker having 0 attack, though of course there are game balance reasons.  Maybe they need to be touched by magic to 'awaken' their full potential, or something? :p  The forest scorpion has the weakest of the 3 (1 poison, versus 2 poison or 1 neurotoxin) and you could also ask the same question of pufferfish.

For the nymphs, I would suppose that they are highly magical beings and all that, so their power/toughness would vary quite a bit based on their ability and element and so on.  For example, the aether nymph, having an ability that isn't particularly useful in monoaether, has the highest attack value of any nymph. The gravity nymph is the most fragile nymph because it is the most powerful one.  The life one has a higher power/toughness than most nymphs because life is all about... life and creatures.  Light is about healing and damage prevention, so that nymph has more hp than all of the other ones.  Not all of it makes sense, but for most of the nymphs, I think their power/toughness + ability/cost are taken into consideration together, are reasonable.  I think that the time one doesn't need to be as big as it is given that it has one of the better abilities, and has the 2nd best attack and tied for best hp of the nymphs with light.  I think the death nymph would be better suited if it had a higher attack and less hp, like maybe 3/4 // 5/4, and it would make sense for the earth one to have more hp (0/5 // 0/7 like the death one now) but that's just me..

[Quabal]

Here's some theme for the scorps: A forest scorp has a mild sting, but it will attack anything, that's its nature. The death and dune scorpions have to be angered first, but once they're mad, watch the &@^$ out.

[Holokausti]

I can't really see how Ash could attack. You could buff it to give it some attack power but still it's just an inanimate pile of ash. Photon is over my head too but at least Ray of Light makes more sense.

[Naesala]

Ah, forgot about ash. Yeah, seriously it makes so little sense to me. The nymph arguement is valid with some exceptions.

[ralouf]

I can't see why ash must be inanimate, they are just sleeping fire so they can suddenly awake and attack you.

[Xenocidius]

Forget that, how can Photons have momentum? They have no mass!

[Acsabi44]

how can a spark mitosis? 

About the scorpions: Maybe life scorpions are bigger?

[Pineapple]

In most cases, a possible thematic mindset for 0-attack things being able to attack is that all creatures, no matter the attack value, attack, but some creatures cannot penetrate the damage barriers of the elemental and therefore do no damage.

[teffy]

2) That doesn´t address the thematic, it addresses the balance of the cards themselves. I know -why- their attacks are 0, just not how it works.

I think stronger scorpions need less options to be buffed for balance :

Forest Scorpion: No buff needed, Adrenaline easily possible (same color)
Deathstalker: Nightfall (a very good one) , Blessing, Chaos Power, Momentum  Adrenaline harder possible (2nd color)
Dune Scorpion: Blessing, Chaos Power . Momentum, Adrenaline harder possilble,(2nd color)

about Strength: Deathstalker ~ 2* Forest Scorpion. Dune Scorpion does normally >= 2 poison damage turn (>= 1 card per turn played on average), and Neurotoxin also works with a dead scorpion.