Human stats?

[eaglgenes101]

I really don't think kinetic energy is a good way to estimate damage. People can survive being shot with either an arrow or a bullet. People can die from being shot with either. Therefore the minimum damage of a bullet is less than the critical damage of an arrow.

Edited. And it's supposed to be a ballpark estimate.

I justify my using of kinetic energy because Elements doesn't give a [poop] about bleeding. You can be stabbed with a sword in the game and take no more damage, and have 97 HP left at the end of the day. In the real world, a person can die of any sort of deep wound, on any part of the body. Because of bleeding.

[OldTrees]

I really don't think kinetic energy is a good way to estimate damage. People can survive being shot with either an arrow or a bullet. People can die from being shot with either. Therefore the minimum damage of a bullet is less than the critical damage of an arrow.

Edited. And it's supposed to be a ballpark estimate.

I justify my using of kinetic energy because Elements doesn't give a [poop] about bleeding. You can be stabbed with a sword in the game and take no more damage, and have 97 HP left at the end of the day. In the real world, a person can die of any sort of deep wound, on any part of the body. Because of bleeding.

I was talking about organ damage not bleeding. (The type of damage both weapons deal.)

[odideph]

In the world of elements you can't miss unless it's a player with a shield, or it's an with Shard of Freedom.
So i'd go with the 43 or 69 attack calculated by the others, and add a "the damage dealt is a random amount between this creature's attack and zero" clause. For those gun-using units i mean.

[McSod]

Re firearms: wondering what era weaponry you lot are thinking. A blunderbuss, for example, would do hugely different damage than a MP5.

Or are we just taking conceptually "A bullet that has been fired and hit"?

[furballdn]

Re firearms: wondering what era weaponry you lot are thinking. A blunderbuss, for example, would do hugely different damage than a MP5.

Or are we just taking conceptually "A bullet that has been fired and hit"?

Modern day firearms! Like a 9mm or a M-16!

[Zam888]

So a frog does 3 damage (5 if he is modestly larger) and people are suggesting an unarmed human being doing 0 or 1? That's a tough frog...

[blarp]

So a frog does 3 damage (5 if he is modestly larger) and people are suggesting an unarmed human being doing 0 or 1? That's a tough frog...

You've obviously never been bitten by a frog.

[furballdn]

So a frog does 3 damage (5 if he is modestly larger) and people are suggesting an unarmed human being doing 0 or 1? That's a tough frog...

Don't forget photons do 1 damage as well :>

[Zam888]

So a frog does 3 damage (5 if he is modestly larger) and people are suggesting an unarmed human being doing 0 or 1? That's a tough frog...

You've obviously never been bitten by a frog.

Can't say that I have 

Although, my cousin was struck by lightning a few years ago (he's fine) and apparently that experience is equivalent, in terms of damage

[OldTrees]

So a frog does 3 damage (5 if he is modestly larger) and people are suggesting an unarmed human being doing 0 or 1? That's a tough frog...

A Titanic Frog. Seriously Humans cannot do as much damage as one of these https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZa-u2cb3o95W-k4jLS0QC0PZJJdkIQIHauyOmTnRnlLOk6sSI

[ZephyrPhantom]

Since the subject of gun-type cards has been considered in this thread - how much damage would riot shields and bulletproof armor reduce? (I'd think they'd have a specific DR bonus against guns.)

[furballdn]

Since the subject of gun-type cards has been considered in this thread - how much damage would riot shields and bulletproof armor reduce? (I'd think they'd have a specific DR bonus against guns.)

A Shield has dr of 1. A tower shield has dr of 2. They seem to be made of wood and steel. A titanium shield has dr of 2, and a diamond shield has a dr of 3.

Riot shields are made of  RlCb30 constructor (No idea what that is). I imagine they'd do a lot against bullets, but not sure how well they'd block swords or titanic frogs.