"Mark of X" Cards

[Hyroen]

Ok, here are the differences:

Mark Card Gain 1 of the corresponding quanta per turn If it is the same mark, can be played over your mark and cannot be destroyed

Mark Card (upgraded) Gain 1 of the corresponding quanta when played Gain 1 of the corresponding quanta per turn Is played apart from your mark, therefore it can be destroyed and is considered a pillar(therefore vulnerable to Tsunami or Quicksand)

Would you upgrade yours?

Normally each card when upgraded is because it results in a more strategic card.
Some people however will choose to stay with the unupgraded version because it will suit their strategy better.

Considering certain examples, you won't have an unupgraded Sundial in a Mono , but you won't have an upgraded Dissipation Field in a Mono either. However the upgraded Sundial only costs 2 to draw the card, and no quanta to play. is relatively easy to get (White Nymph, Luciferase), whereas is a little trickier. As for Dissipation Field, it absorbs 1 random quanta per point of damage blocked and therefore is perfect for rainbow decks that use Quantum Towers, but not so much for Mono , since using a Mono you are essentially gaining X +1 random quanta for each Tower out per turn, and using Quantum Towers you are gaining 3X + 1.

Those 2 cases are basic examples where one may be more strategic to play than the other, but overall the upgrade is stronger.

Where is the improvement in upgrading a Mark Card? Gaining 1 extra quanta when you play it?

[miniwally]

There is no reason to upgrade it, it is essentially just a tower. Maybe Zanz should improve it somehow.

[Malduk]

Where is the improvement in upgrading a Mark Card? Gaining 1 extra quanta when you play it?

Exactly the same as upgrading a pillar into a tower. So fancy Mark Card, that was untouchable pillar becomes fancy tower. Fancy being the key word here.

[miniwally]

Where is the improvement in upgrading a Mark Card? Gaining 1 extra quanta when you play it?

Exactly the same as upgrading a pillar into a tower. So fancy Mark Card, that was untouchable pillar becomes fancy tower. Fancy being the key word here.

Yeh but his point is that turning from an indestructible quanta production into gaining 1 extra quanta isn't really an upgrade.

[Hyroen]

Aye Malduk but there's the rub.

Playing a Mark of X card that is unupgraded if you currently are of element X, will result in a tiny X2 appearing on top of your mark, and if you play another one X3, and so on. And as we all know you can't do anything to a Mark, this is the main strength of the unupgraded Mark Card. It is not just fance

If you have an upgraded Mark of X card, it really will serve EXACTLY as a Tower of element X, there's no stacking on top of your mark as in the unupgraded version, and that is where the major flaw in upgrading lies.

Comparing the benefits of a built-in Protect Artifact with the unupgraded card if certain conditions are met, and the benefits of acquiring one extra quanta when the upgraded card is played, it is evidently demoting as opposed to upgrading.

No fancy shmancy anything

[Malduk]

Where is the improvement in upgrading a Mark Card? Gaining 1 extra quanta when you play it?

Exactly the same as upgrading a pillar into a tower. So fancy Mark Card, that was untouchable pillar becomes fancy tower. Fancy being the key word here.

Yeh but his point is that turning from an indestructible quanta production into gaining 1 extra quanta isn't really an upgrade.

That is due to the current code limitations. It is currently programmed that different cards cannot stack, and in this case, unupped mark and upped mark are two different cards. Maybe in the future Zanz will fix that by making an exception for Mark cards.
But the point I'm trying to make is that this card is more for showing off than for anything else, thus not something that has to be fixed as soon as possible.

[Hyroen]

Good points, good points Malduk. And since this affects a minority of the players it will probably be the last thing to repair on Zanz' list.