Completely Losing the Game

[Opsinis]

Is there a way to completely lose the game? I think there is.

Not just a game or a match against an opponent.

Completely losing would be unable to progress, completely stuck.

[russianspy1234]

repeatedly buying and selling cards until you have nothing left?

[Marsu]

There is none. Level 0 & 1 cost nothing to challenge.
(Well, if you sell everything but 30 Pillars...)

[Opsinis]

There is none. Level 0 & 1 cost nothing to challenge.
(Well, if you sell everything but 30 Pillars...)

That's what I got. I figured it's the only way, you won't win and you won't gain anything (assuming you've sold everything and have 0  )

[ColorlessGreen]

"Completely stuck, unable to proceed" would require effort, willfully attempting to screw oneself over, and willfully ignoring ways to un-screw oneself. Requirements are pretty simple:

(1) Make your deck effectively unable to win. Easiest thing here would be 30 random pillars. Note that you could still conceivably deck other decks out if the other deck did really really poorly and you won the coin toss, or if the AI nightmared one of their own creatures that you had the quanta to play, or if the AI played a singularity or otherwise killed itself.

(2) Burn all extra electrum via a buy/sell loop in bazaar.

(3) Pretend there isn't an oracle button.


You could circumvent item 3 by achieving items 1 and 2 before completing the quest which enables the oracle, I believe. If ai0/ai1 have no 30 card decks (I have no idea whether or not this is the case), you could actually truly permanently screw yourself (barring AI suicide) by obtaining a 30-pillar deck and 0 electrum before completing the ai0 quest.

[Jen-i]

Screwed!!

[Rutarete]

Speaking of utterly losing... http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23775.msg303157.html#msg303157

Inb4 "I just lost the game"

[Marsu]

Oh, true. Forgot what CG said - you still have Oracle. So: impossible. :p

[treebeard xiii]

i achieved that feat early game being unable to do anything this was before oracle gave you a card everytime you spun and when most electrum given wasn't great when i first started i had a habit of building absolutely terribad decks that noone in their right mind ould normally build

[ColorlessGreen]

Oh, true. Forgot what CG said - you still have Oracle. So: impossible. :p

Can anyone confirm whether ai1 or ai0 have any 30 card decks? If neither AI level has any 30 card decks whatsoever, it's possible to become screwed before completing any of the quests, and therefore before being able to spin the oracle.

Unless I haven't thought of something (and discounting singularity, nightmare, and other forms of AI suicide), that would be actual, factual screwed.

[bripod]

I'm not sure that any portion of the quests has anything to do with the Oracle. I believe the Oracle is available to all new users the day after they sign up. (but it has been a long time since Ive started an acct.

[Rutarete]

I'm not sure that any portion of the quests has anything to do with the Oracle. I believe the Oracle is available to all new users the day after they sign up. (but it has been a long time since Ive started an acct.

As far as I know, it's only available after completing the 500 score quest.