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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093778#msg1093778
« Reply #1944 on: August 22, 2013, 02:01:21 am »
Something water-based.  Shard of patience (vs SoSa) and purify (vs SoSa and poison) are great.

My question:  I was using an adrenastaves deck, and I suddenly wondered the following:

Why is it that creatures like scorpion, puffer fish, pest, deathstalker, etc, only hit their special effects every 2 rounds, but a flying adrenalined druid staff hits their special effect (regeneration) every round?  It seems rather inconsistent that druid staff gets to break the rule :p  (not sure if this applies to other flying weapons like arsenic, vampire stiletto, etc)

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093779#msg1093779
« Reply #1945 on: August 22, 2013, 02:06:09 am »
Something water-based.  Shard of patience (vs SoSa) and purify (vs SoSa and poison) are great.

My question:  I was using an adrenastaves deck, and I suddenly wondered the following:

Why is it that creatures like scorpion, puffer fish, pest, deathstalker, etc, only hit their special effects every 2 rounds, but a flying adrenalined druid staff hits their special effect (regeneration) every round?  It seems rather inconsistent that druid staff gets to break the rule :p  (not sure if this applies to other flying weapons like arsenic, vampire stiletto, etc)

I can't speak to "why", and now that you mention it, it is rather consistent, but I can tell you about other weapons. Arsenic works like a scorpion. Vampire stiletto works like a vampire, such that it passively heals you when it does damage, so it heals you for all attacks. Fahrenheit triggers like scorpion. Discord triggers like scorpion.

For consistency's sake, I can see no reason why an adrenastaff heals four times, but for the game's sake, I hope it continues to do so, because it's a great, non-OP, unique strategy that elements would be poorer to lose.

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093780#msg1093780
« Reply #1946 on: August 22, 2013, 02:08:20 am »
The poisonous creatures and Devourer actually only act on the first and last turns ("attacks") under Adrenaline (which is five turns for Devourer with 0 attack). This was done by zanz for balancing reasons.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093781#msg1093781
« Reply #1947 on: August 22, 2013, 02:09:18 am »
So basically the healing weapons are the ones that break the rule?  That's probably balanced, though it is inconsistent with all of the other cards.  And yeah, come to think of it, minor vampire/vampire do the same thing, so maybe it is consistent after all, if all the healing ones trigger the ability every round, and everything else is every 2 rounds?

edit: (because higs posted while I was)

Yeah, I did know that zanz did that to devourer, scorpion, etc to balance them.  It just seemed odd to me all of a sudden that he hadn't given druid staff the same treatment; dunno why I never thought about it before.

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093782#msg1093782
« Reply #1948 on: August 22, 2013, 02:14:07 am »
I find vampire to be totally consistent as it is, since vampire is a passive that just means all damage you do is returned as healing, rather than something that happens once a turn/once an attack/triggers on damage.

Druid staff, though, is clearly something that triggers per turn exactly the same as RoL/etc.

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093907#msg1093907
« Reply #1949 on: August 22, 2013, 06:00:26 pm »
Is this an existant deck?

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093916#msg1093916
« Reply #1950 on: August 22, 2013, 07:30:03 pm »
Will voodoo bravery still be good with only 4 shards (of bravery)?

I am asking before I update.

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1093943#msg1093943
« Reply #1951 on: August 22, 2013, 10:16:17 pm »
Will voodoo bravery still be good with only 4 shards (of bravery)?

I am asking before I update.

I actually prefer it with only 4 SoB. I use the fully upgraded deck -2 SoB +1 Gravy Force +1 Voodoo. It makes for a much better draw chance.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1094004#msg1094004
« Reply #1952 on: August 23, 2013, 02:53:27 am »
What deck are you using (the pendalums ones or the aether tower)?

And are you using it for platinium or false god?
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1094028#msg1094028
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What deck are you using (the pendalums ones or the aether tower)?

And are you using it for platinium or false god?

The original, fully upgraded one with my specified modifications. False God.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1094089#msg1094089
« Reply #1954 on: August 23, 2013, 03:26:11 pm »
I don't know which one is the original. :S

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1094196#msg1094196
« Reply #1955 on: August 23, 2013, 10:21:02 pm »
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