Anyone still challenging the FGs?

[zombie0]

False Gods keep getting more advantages.   credit whoever keeps tweaking the AI, but FGs are using all of their broken mechanics better.  Decay used to siphon creatures until he ran out of cards in hand.  now he prefers to 2-shot my face with his heap of quantum.  Osiris's catapults wreck my life, especially as someone that generally avoided permanent CC cards that were never needed, opting rather to stall for a win with eternity and slow damage.  havent beat dreamcatcher in a while, seems its destroy+quint=gg every game a couple turns in (with less constraint on blowing up towers too)

seems everyone gave up and only pummels the hapless AI3 and t50 over and over?  were any of the new cards intended to be used in serious play vs FGs, with serious play defined as a deck that isnt an auto-lose against half of them

the only good is that any FG decks with the new cards will be laughably easy (besides the one example of osiris).  no FG deck will use soul catcher, they dont need it.  the cat is unplayable and crusader does nothing a FG flying weapon deck cant already do.  double damage flying card is overkill, silence and cloak are horrible card disadvantage, evven if FGs are generally immune to that.  if any of the new cards work, its because ANY bad idea is way better when you have 3 mark double draws and immunity to rushes.

none of the new cards are great, they are only timid additions that required no rebalancing or reason to include in our decks vs FGs

hows everyone else feel?

tl:dr   False God AI is harder, new cards dont help our decks versus them

[Daxx]

The cards are largely not designed to win fights against FGs; most if not all new cards are designed with the PVP environment in mind. Balancing against the FGs is generally considered to be a bad idea.

That said, I've not had much time to FG farm since the patch came out so I can't really confirm or deny your experiences.

[scauduro221095]

new cards are useless against FG's the only good one and u have to get a good draw is catapult throwing titans cause each titan does 30 damage. i beat a couple like that but it isnt always effective

[Daytripper]

This is incorrect. Schrodinger's cat can build up your own bone wall and skeleton army, even in an empty field. It's a nice boost to any gaveyard deck.

FG's CAN be tanked. The strongest against Osiris and dreamcatcher is now the lobo, the puppet or as a perma. The catapults are strong yes. Inundation is also good against Osiris. Doesn't develop his game.

All out CC is fun against Decay. An early oty is best, otherwise hand out the shelling with plague and inundation. Decay is weak, by the way. A whole field can get no lock on 13 quantum towers. Only a slow draw or the spells really hurt. You should have early CC handy or jade/mirror shield. 

I agree the game seems somewhat harder. But, my time bow death star is still holding strong, getting me my cards. Also an entropy speedbow with healing and frost and FFQ + golem still works, that or FFQ + steamie and any good non water shield.

[Acsabi44]

Umm...
I have no harder time to beat 'em than before 1.26
I cannot say specific things, but they are generally on the same power level for me.

About Osiris using Catapults: With my current deck, I can survive Octane too, who is a much more massive damage- dealer than Osiris. He is not a problem either.

ftr, I use a modded version of CCYB.

[Getawu2]

Well, as Light Nymph only has 1 attack now, the RoL/Hope deck with the nymph as damage dealer doesn't work anymore - catapults make Osiris more dangerous, but the improvement of upped Sundials helps the decks using them. So there isn't much difference to 1.25.

The new cards don't really create completly new decks, but they can help - one might see decks using them like the DoSA-deck, Silence might become a situational card, for example be used to hinder the FG playing Miracle or slow the game down in the beginning, perhaps Schrödinger's Cat might work with some decks or Crusader (I tried a Crusader - Eternity deck but it seems to be to slow), Catapult may be a addition to Grav shield - Earth Nymph/Basilisk decks, but those seem to be rare. Overall, the new cards are worth a try and better deck builders than me might find a working concept - but they won't replace the decks being played at the moment.

I'm almost only playing against FG, they simply are most fun and giving the best fights.

[thatnewguy]

I still challenge the FGs every now and again personally i kill osiris before he can ever use his new "advantage" Jade shield > decay that's just how it works. Fgs have gained no advantage over players now that they already had. I agree with daxx, the new cards and pvp designed imo. Their is a new FG killer based around soul catcher tho, with a win/lose that will almost rival rol/hope.

This is just my take on it.

[Tea is good]

Getawu and Thenewguy could you post your fg decks? (For him) but really for me

[thatnewguy]

I use CCYB:

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Mostly shak'ar tho:

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[Getawu2]

Can haz moar draws with slight modifications. The precogs are there for testing atm, I still don't know if I'll use them in the future.

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[TheonlyrealBeef]

The ai still feels the same way about delayed dolls, so I don't really notice any difference
Go Shak'ar!

[Ryan666]

This is incorrect. Schrodinger's cat can build up your own bone wall and skeleton army, even in an empty field. It's a nice boost to any gaveyard deck.

FG's CAN be tanked. The strongest against Osiris and dreamcatcher is now the lobo, the puppet or as a perma. The catapults are strong yes. Inundation is also good against Osiris. Doesn't develop his game.

All out CC is fun against Decay. An early oty is best, otherwise hand out the shelling with plague and inundation. Decay is weak, by the way. A whole field can get no lock on 13 quantum towers. Only a slow draw or the spells really hurt. You should have early CC handy or jade/mirror shield. 

I agree the game seems somewhat harder. But, my time bow death star is still holding strong, getting me my cards. Also an entropy speedbow with healing and frost and FFQ + golem still works, that or FFQ + steamie and any good non water shield.

Thanks DayTripper, this was VERY VERY helpful. (: