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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1061931#msg1061931
« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2013, 03:34:56 pm »
-What donating rewards are appropriate and will maintain balance?

a) One that has influence on the game, but anyone can obtain: Shards, most other rares: Yes. Nymphs: No. Would already destroy the game, which is one reson I'm happy some Posters aren't in charge of anything here.

b) (Better) One that has no influence on the game: art. (Imo best solution: New foils. Seriously, there'd be hundreds of donations in the first week.)

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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062011#msg1062011
« Reply #85 on: April 20, 2013, 09:01:37 pm »
Why am I the only one pushing for an open source project?

I'd gladly help a lot by improving several of the mechanisms; that is also giving something "back". Why is the focus here constantly on money? Without wishing to brag -I do have a very easy time programming- (sadly I am a terrible designer, so interfaces/games I create always look cumbersome with 100s of options all crammed in a small area and then some 10 different behind each button :P - In that field I expect then help back again for my efford).

Working together instead of against each other and open sourcing projects allows projects to flourish & become larger than any commercial closed source application can ever be.


So my motivations for the comments here are: I'd love to help and am actually more frustrated that I can't; thinking of generating a copy of elements that is open source so development will continue fast, but at the same time still feeling bad for making a blatant copy and trying to make myself not feel that way.

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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062019#msg1062019
« Reply #86 on: April 20, 2013, 09:42:43 pm »
Why am I the only one pushing for an open source project?
Because it is a portfolio project and it is sufficiently open source already that we know how it is coded.
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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062071#msg1062071
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2013, 12:38:12 am »
Why am I the only one pushing for an open source project?
Because it is a portfolio project and it is sufficiently open source already that we know how it is coded.

portfolio has nothing to say about open/closed sourcing.. Actually open sourcing is much better if you wish to "prove" that you are good: than a potential employer can see if your style of working fits within the team. You still designed a "part" of it and employers do understand that not everything in a project is made by you, opensourcing does in no shape make the work you did less valuable -except if you are too ashamed to show the internals. Otherwise it will make things only better as the total picture (so first impression) gets better with more people.

Open sourcing is not about "know how it is coded" it is about 'helping each other help yourself'.
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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062082#msg1062082
« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2013, 01:06:36 am »
It is all up to Zanzarino, however, I do know that great games like The Battle For Wesnoth were made open source for this exact reason.

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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062272#msg1062272
« Reply #89 on: April 21, 2013, 02:52:29 pm »
Why am I the only one pushing for an open source project?
Because it is a portfolio project and it is sufficiently open source already that we know how it is coded.

portfolio has nothing to say about open/closed sourcing.. Actually open sourcing is much better if you wish to "prove" that you are good: than a potential employer can see if your style of working fits within the team. You still designed a "part" of it and employers do understand that not everything in a project is made by you, opensourcing does in no shape make the work you did less valuable -except if you are too ashamed to show the internals. Otherwise it will make things only better as the total picture (so first impression) gets better with more people.

Open sourcing is not about "know how it is coded" it is about 'helping each other help yourself'.
This position is compelling. If you are correct about it improving its value as a portfolio project and Zanz likes the idea then I think it would be a great model for EtG. It also fits the temperament of the community (Phoenix, Crusader, Voodoo Doll, 7 others) in a way that monetizing does less.
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Re: More money for Zanz and more updates for us! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48416.msg1062652#msg1062652
« Reply #90 on: April 22, 2013, 03:10:52 am »

b) (Better) One that has no influence on the game: art. (Imo best solution: New foils. Seriously, there'd be hundreds of donations in the first week.)

If only there was somebody who would bring that up.
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