Shockwave + Freeze: The untapped potential

[ZephyrPhantom]

To address the issue of Arctic Squid, at 2 defense, it's pretty easily removed, and the ability increase could be used as a nerf if prolems arose. I see no reason why this isn't already in the works.

I think the main issue lies not in cost or in vulnerability, but that with Quintessence, you've got a virtually untouchable creature which can handle pretty much anything thrown its way. I would think this type of versatility verges onto overpowered territory.

If most think that Arctic Squid could be given the flexible Freeze then I'll include it, but for the time being I think it would be best if Freeze and Congeal work with creatures and permanents while Arctic Squid only be allowed to target creatures, and possibly receive a change in skill name to something like Cold Touch.

I agree that Arctic Squid would probably be best left to creatures. Changing it's Freeze ability to affect permanents as well puts it into Pulverizer territory which would likely result in a cost increase, which in turn makes the card awkward to use at best. However, I do think it would be interesting for Water to have a separate card that acts as Freeze-on-a-stick for permanents, such as Frost Jay (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34335.0).

[Silver]

Maybe freeze could only freeze perms for 1 turn so that instead of just freezing and refreezing everything people will use shockwave more.

[jippy99]

I am in full support of this idea, I believe that this is something the game needs quite badly.  The lack of PC in the game gives fire and darkness large advantages in many situations.  How would this work with shields like wings?  Will it negate the effect for a turn and keep the amount of turns left on the shield the same?  Or will it negate the effect and decrease the turns left by 1?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I am in full support of this idea, I believe that this is something the game needs quite badly.  The lack of PC in the game gives fire and darkness large advantages in many situations.  How would this work with shields like wings?  Will it negate the effect for a turn and keep the amount of turns left on the shield the same?  Or will it negate the effect and decrease the turns left by 1?

Freeze would probably negate the effect but continue decreasing the 'timer'. (Sort of like a more gradual explosion)

[Marsu]

A great idea imho!

[Troh]

I like the idea

[ZephyrPhantom]

Going to bump this idea as I feel it'd give more versatility to one of the more underused cards in the game as well as slightly buffing shockwave. What are your thoughts?

[EvaRia]

Water would like it. It would also give some more options in terms of CC, while I can't see it being overpowered.
Also since it doesn't really stack with deflag/steal it doesn't give possibility of overloading a deck with PC.

+1 support.

[jacker]

It would be a good idea +1 reputation