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New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg206739#msg206739
« on: November 22, 2010, 12:54:07 pm »
Well there has been literally no new content for about 4 (?) months now.
I´m just logging in for the oracle and pretty much lost all interest in the game after i got a ton of upped cards and am represented in Top50.
Also i´m not interested in "Forum-Games" such as the current "War2" so i got nothing "to do" for a long time.After around 15k games played all i would like to see are a few new card once in a while to keep things interesting.

I know Zanz doesn´t get paid for his work and am gratefull for the current content.I´ve been in a Mod-crew for an old MTG game and we sometimes implemented 300+ cards/week (including AI behaviour etc).I can totally understand if Zanz got burned out by doing "everything" on his own for a long time.Its more or less just a hobby afterall and i really respect his work.

Plenty new cards ideas are already out there in this forum, we got skilled Artists and i´m pretty sure a handfull of coders can be found here aswell. I´d really love to see the community work together on frequent new content to keep this game alive.
Zanz would still have the last word wether to implement the new content or not, but we are at a standstill right now.

Just a suggestion ... don´t get me wrong on this, i really appreciate playing this great game.

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg206761#msg206761
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 01:51:03 pm »
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I´d really love to see the community work together on frequent new content to keep this game alive.
these 'forum-games' as you called it is one way we're trying to keep the flame of interest alive
nothing we do can affect new contents in the game itself unless zanz wills it since only he holds the key  to the kingdom (i'm pretty sure all these fancy wording is coming from my subconscious from watching too many fantasy movies)
i doubt there will be a second coming of chriskang (never knew the dude personally, it was way before my time here) but that would be awesome too

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg206897#msg206897
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 05:03:54 pm »
I wonder how much the game can expand within the boundaries of a flash game.
1000+ cards, tons of animations and stuff would be too much for a browser-based game to handle, I think.
Then after all I may be wrong, I have no experience in flash-programming and the capabilities of browsergames.
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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207007#msg207007
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 07:40:46 pm »
I wonder how much the game can expand within the boundaries of a flash game.
1000+ cards, tons of animations and stuff would be too much for a browser-based game to handle, I think.
Then after all I may be wrong, I have no experience in flash-programming and the capabilities of browsergames.
It'd probably just lag the bazaar (and Jmizzle's account).

But the community can't make cards.  Are you suggesting we add our own new cards?  That'd be plagiarism until Zanz gives the okay, and he hasn't.

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207014#msg207014
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 07:48:20 pm »
I wonder how much the game can expand within the boundaries of a flash game.
1000+ cards, tons of animations and stuff would be too much for a browser-based game to handle, I think.
Then after all I may be wrong, I have no experience in flash-programming and the capabilities of browsergames.
It'd probably just lag the bazaar (and Jmizzle's account).

But the community can't make cards.  Are you suggesting we add our own new cards?  That'd be plagiarism until Zanz gives the okay, and he hasn't.
no, I was just thinking about the game's future.
If the game cannot expand beyond, say, 200 individual cards, bc of the flash's limited memory, then something has to be done.
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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207510#msg207510
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 08:05:37 am »
Well, as far as I can tell the community has quite a lot of activity which centres around making new cards and card ideas, and has done for a while. An update is nice but ultimately Zanz is the only one with the power to add updates to the game no matter how many suggestions we give him for new content.

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207530#msg207530
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 09:09:55 am »
You know, I just realized, after having a similar discussion with my roomy about the game, that there is a perspective about the game that makes this forum work well.

I think of it in terms of toys I had when I was young. They weren't the flashiest of toys, but with a little imagination you could think up a lot of fun things to do with them for many hours. On the other hand, a lot of toys nowadays are very singular in purpose that tend not to shift well into other modes of fun. They sort of have a planned obsolesce in effect.

Elements is like the toys of old. There may not be a lot of cards to work with and new cards don't come out that often, but if take some time to use your imagination you can do a lot with just a little. Look at WAR and WoE and all the little events that creep about the forums. If you apply yourself, you can find there's a lot to do with the game, regardless of the stage you find yourself.

I will concede the point though that a lot of the fun forum stuff that happens is a direct result of the members and their drive to keep the community strong. If it wasn't for the community, it'd be game over once you reached fully upped. So there is a lot to be said for community involvement in keeping the game strong.

In any event, I think people really need to have a clear perspective on what they are trying to do with the game. If you are one that just sits idly by and grinds for cards and score, eventually you'll hit a plateau that requires you to sit and wait for new cards to emerge thereby repeating the process. But if you look at the game as a means to an end, in this case all the fun forum stuff you can be a part of, then the game can have endless fun beyond the limits of just getting score or upped cards. In essence, the game is what you make of it. I just humbly recommend you look at what you can do in a community such as this. I think people will find that involvement will bear juicer fruit than simply grinding for grinding's sake.

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207768#msg207768
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 05:40:43 pm »
Its card pool is way too small to be honest.  It really makes enjoying deck building difficult.

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Re: New Content ? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16151.msg207778#msg207778
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 05:54:59 pm »
Well I could understand if the code were to remain hidden to not make it easier for hackers to hack this game, but I'm sure there are people like me who have some (limited) programming skills and are willing to spend some of their free time implementing certain stuff in which Zanz can eventually decide whether to implement or not.

It's not really sensible for other programmers to program suggestions and just pray it's compatible with the game though.

New content is good, improving the current content is greater, though you could achieve the latter doing the former.

 

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