More money for Zanz and more updates for us!

[OldTrees]

Ah, I found elements with this: http://www.bubblebox.com/play/adventure/20130283.htm

Notice the description says

Elements Instructions


About Elements
The sequel to one of the most succesful Flash games ever.

This time you are protecting your elements from being stolen by seven different types of creeps.

The words sequel, stolen and 7 imply the description is not for EtG. I think they might be stealing EtG.

[ddevans96]

Anywhere other than the official site and Kong is stealing EtG.

[pulli23]

you can't steal an idea. Beside not being open source deserves "stealing".

[OldTrees]

you can't steal an idea. Beside not being open source deserves "stealing".

1) I want to support the developer by playing where the ad revenue goes to the developer. Some jerk decided to try to trick me into playing where they get the ad money instead. That is theft. (and fraud)

2) Every thinker knows the difference between coming up with an  idea and taking an idea. Coming up with an idea is not theft. However taking an idea probably is. It is not the idea that is owned, it is the product of the labor that is owned. And yes it is theft to exploit someone's labor without their consent.

[Marsu]

you can't steal an idea. Beside not being open source deserves "stealing".

Your posts become more and more bizarre.

[OldTrees]

you can't steal an idea. Beside not being open source deserves "stealing".

Your posts become more and more bizarre.

How was that post bizarre? The current youth population (at least my generation) has in general grown up illegally downloading or being on good terms with people that did. Just as with most political thought, they developed political positions starting at their conclusion and weaving justifications and rationalizations backwards. Thus you have the Pirate Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party).

I may partially disagree with them but it is not bizarre.

[vrt]

Considering EtG is completely available without any type of payment whatsoever, and BubbleBox is not adding anything to it, just using it to generate ad revenue, it doesn't even fit the philosophy of the Pirate Party.

[TribalTrouble]

In other news, shards turn into nymphs there (:

[Marvaddin]

I also think expanding the fanbase is a must, but, well, still, adds are the key.

I have spent some time looking for EtG in other sites, have found just this one:

kanogames

... and another one with 0.2 version (wow, this is old) that couldnt connect to the server.

Also, I have found this! The REAL ELEMENTS THE GAME! OMG, Im excited.

[eaglgenes101]

you can't steal an idea. Beside not being open source deserves "stealing".

What happened to forgery being a crime?

[laxnut90]

I believe we have gotten a little bit off topic by discussing piracy and copyright laws.  Therefore, I would like to repost some of the things I think have been resolved about this issue.

Thus far, I think these are the things people seem to all agree on.

-More updates would be nice
-A greater cash flow may allow Zanz to put more focus on Elements
-Whatever changes occur, Elements must remain a free to play game
-Non-donating players should not be put at an extreme disadvantage
-Widening the fanbase would help

Things that must still be resolved

-What donating rewards are appropriate and will maintain balance?
-How should we try to widen our fanbase?
-Are there any other ways Elements could increase revenues from sources other than players (i.e. Advertisements)?
-Would a Kickstarter for the next update be appropriate?

[TribalTrouble]

-A greater cash flow may allow Zanz to put more focus on Elements

This is NOT agreed on. Zanz uses this as a portfolio side project.