More money for Zanz and more updates for us!

[Blaze]

@Everybody
Loving the discussion! And there are far too many issues to address separately for me right now.

I don't fully see a reason to continue this without the support of Zanz. Thus, how do I get in touch with him?

@Marvddin
I think everything that people would pay for in terms of getting all the cards should be an accelerated curve on grinding. Not access to a trainer like experience where you just get everything. That would completely defeat the purpose of grinding, and paying. At that point it would be pay until you have the deck that you're using because of the trainer anyway and then stop paying... bad business ^_^ I do like the idea of giving someone signing up for monthly service for the first time an option of paying a little extra for 50K electrum so they can buy an upgraded deck right off the bat. (And not allowing anyone above a certain score to pay this, I.E. people who already have a fully upped deck.)

[Hazardus10]

To contact Zanz use the elements the game email.

I personally do not know the contact, but others do.

[TribalTrouble]

Quickly going to the Z.Design site his email is: zanzarino@libero.it

[Marvaddin]

Language please, remember when posting, to still follow the rules. No profanity please.

Hazardus, looks like you didnt realize I posted that in response to Marsu, which have used the same words (and because of this I have used quotes). But ok, I will edit my post.

Blaze, I dont understand your point. If someone pays just up to have a deck hes using in the "trainer" version and stops paying, its the same about the "accelerated curve on grinding", the player will use it just to get the deck he wants and stop paying. But you are correct about something: the "trainer" I suggested beats the purpose of grinding. Because I think grinding is boring. And the goal shouldnt be grind for a deck, should be enjoy the game. 1 deck is nothing, can you play the game using 1 deck for the rest of your life? Let people experience everything they want, try all card combinations, play vs FGs using a deck with 6 Earth Nymphs if they want. PvP should be preserved, PvE shouldnt, I think. Eternal Phoenix didnt complain a little bit because I owned it using a death + thunderstorm deck today, and still gave me an upgraded Fractal.

If you ask me "why would people pay for it again?" I would answer "otherwise they lose diversity and NEED to grind to get it back". My suggestion is: skip all grinding, just enjoy.

[Hazardus10]

Language please, remember when posting, to still follow the rules. No profanity please.

Hazardus, looks like you didnt realize I posted that in response to Marsu, which have used the same words (and because of this I have used quotes). But ok, I will edit my post.

Blaze, I dont understand your point. If someone pays just up to have a deck hes using in the "trainer" version and stops paying, its the same about the "accelerated curve on grinding", the player will use it just to get the deck he wants and stop paying. But you are correct about something: the "trainer" I suggested beats the purpose of grinding. Because I think grinding is boring. And the goal shouldnt be grind for a deck, should be enjoy the game. 1 deck is nothing, can you play the game using 1 deck for the rest of your life? Let people experience everything they want, try all card combinations, play vs FGs using a deck with 6 Earth Nymphs if they want. PvP should be preserved, PvE shouldnt, I think. Eternal Phoenix didnt complain a little bit because I owned it using a death + thunderstorm deck today, and still gave me an upgraded Fractal.

If you ask me "why would people pay for it again?" I would answer "otherwise they lose diversity and NEED to grind to get it back". My suggestion is: skip all grinding, just enjoy.

Sorry I didn't notice. That message wasn't specifically directed to you but a reminder for all

[laxnut90]

If "fan base" requires more of the sort who wish to change the game into a pay for play environment, then I'm all against it....

With effort comes reward... suck it up, grind... it's funny to see how many "forum go-ers" want to be a part of everything "Elements" without actually playing the game...

I believe there may have been a bit of a misunderstanding.  I completely agree with your assessment that changing elements into a pay for play environment would ruin the game.  I also agree that donation rewards should be limited as to not create an unfair advantage.

Fair Rewards (in my opinion):
-A Rare Card (since they are already in the game and, therefore, will not cause too many balance issues)
-Some Electrum (This option needs to be on the table, but the amount cannot be so high as to make everyone else's grinding seem meaningless)
-Temporary Electrum per Game Bonus (As long as a temporary bonus does not affect the player's winning chances in game, it is fine)

Unfair Rewards:
-Extra Oracle Spins (would allow paying players to consistently have stronger arena decks than non-payers.  This would also cause the overall arena to be stronger, further hurting grinders)
-Permanent Pets and/or PvP Pets (These would create severe balance issues if players could buy their way to victory)
-New Cards Before Release/"Member" Cards (I have no problem with paying players buying a new card as long as everyone else in the game has an equal opportunity to get those same cards by grinding.  There should NEVER be any "restricted" cards even if it is just a week or two before the cards become public to everyone.  If a player is able to buy a card and use it in a pvp match/arena deck, any player, regardless of paying status, should have the opportunity to obtain that card by defeating them.)

When I suggested trying to widen the fanbase, I was merely saying that a greater number of players would naturally lead to a greater number of donations.  I never meant to imply that we should attempt to seek out only paying players.  Elements is and should remain a game that everyone can enjoy.

[laxnut90]

Addressing the idea of widening the Elements fanbase, why not add a small reward for referring a player.  It would not have to be much.  I was thinking maybe 100 Electrum for both the new player and the player who referred them.

To prevent abuse, I would suggest that the referral option should show up after the new player's 3rd or 4th game.  The new player would be asked to type the name of the player who reffered them.  If the name checks out, both players get 100 Electrum.

[OldTrees]

I would like to remind people that this is Zanz's portfolio project first and only a game second. We ought to respect the fact that Zanz should consider his own interests first and game quality second.

@Blaze Money is and should be a distant third. If you like the portfolio project then invest in the programmer. Do not try to convert something you do not own away from the goal of the owner.

[Blaze]

The email was wrong and didn't deliver, can you link me to the website?

Quickly going to the Z.Design site his email is: zanzarino@libero.it

[TribalTrouble]

just google zanzarino design and u see the site. Guess he stopped doing it.

[Blaze]

Yeah, can any one else help me get in touch with him?

just google zanzarino design and u see the site. Guess he stopped doing it.

[Marsu]

I will try to make it simple for you too, Marsu. What you are saying is:
1. Game is bad. [...]

Lol. If you do not understand my posts, please refrain from trying to sum them up.