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[Elmachtronic]

Hello Friend
I write this message to you because I saw something important to change.
Cards have too many words and sometimes It is hard to know what it is doing.
Why don't make a word-key about functions cards and glossary about they?
And why some effects are random? Random is un-fair because you don't know it will work or not.
I sorry if I wrote some words wrong but I from Poland and sometimes I make mistakes.

Example and Others:
Frozen Congeal etc. why don't write Paralyse or Frozen and use numbers to determining amount number of turns it is frozen? Like Target creature is Frozen 3?
Some shield have 50% chance for miss attack. Why this don't have "prevent half of damage"?
Why a "mass damage" spells like a "Rain of Fire" don't hit Immaterial Creatures? I don't target they.
Why some effects (like Duality no "Mind Gate") exist on only 1 card and it have name? Th should be only cost and what it's doing.
Why immortality and immaterial make the same?

Thanks for read.

[Chapuz]

I have heard of people saying the cards have too few explanation in, but never too much. They say just what you need to know what they do.

And why some effects are random? Random is un-fair because you don't know it will work or not.

Because randomness is what makes them fun.

Frozen Congeal etc. why don't write Paralyse or Frozen and use numbers to determining amount number of turns it is frozen? Like Target creature is Frozen 3?

Because if you are newb and you read it, you will think who wrote it doesn't know english. Frozen is the key-word

Some shield have 50% chance for miss attack. Why this don't have "prevent half of damage"?

Because newbs will expect creatures deal 50% less damage. The text is precise.

Why a "mass damage" spells like a "Rain of Fire" don't hit Immaterial Creatures? I don't target them.

That's actually a good one. All creatures are targeted  The only way to target them is with Shard of Wisdom and "shields". Shield effects affect immaterial creatures, like Spin Carpace and Procrastination.

Why some effects (like Duality no "Mind Gate") exist on only 1 card and it have name? Th should be only cost and what it's doing.

I didn't understand this one

Why immortality and immaterial make the same?

Because they ARE the same.

[Pella]

May I?

Frozen Congeal etc. why don't write Paralyse or Frozen and use numbers to determining amount number of turns it is frozen? Like Target creature is Frozen 3?

Because if you are newb and you read it, you will think who wrote it doesn't know english. Frozen is the key-word

He has a point. While the card Congeal tells you it's for 4 turns, the creature ability of the same name reads only "Congeal", leaving the newb to guess.

Why a "mass damage" spells like a "Rain of Fire" don't hit Immaterial Creatures? I don't target them.

That's actually a good one. All creatures are targeted  The only way to target them is with Shard of Wisdom and "shields". Shield effects affect immaterial creatures, like Spin Carpace and Procrastination.

Again, the word appears on some cards in the absence of its definition.

Why some effects (like Duality no "Mind Gate") exist on only 1 card and it have name? Th should be only cost and what it's doing.

I didn't understand this one

This is a reference to a card with a unique ability in which the name of the card and the name of the ability do not match. For some, this can cause confusion during the newb stage.

Why immortality and immaterial make the same?

Because they ARE the same.

Read the question this way: "Why does the game use two different words on different cards to refer to the same ability?"

[Dm]

Couldn't hold back on this one --

He has a point. While the card Congeal tells you it's for 4 turns, the creature ability of the same name reads only "Congeal", leaving the newb to guess.

So, congeal tells you it's for 4 turns. The creature ability of the same name reads only congeal.

I think that if you have an Arctic Squid and paid 1.5k to upgrade it, you are no longer a newbie and probably know how to pass your mouse over a creature to check the turns. There are the number of turns in the card, you know. "Frozen: 4 Turns."

[Pella]

Couldn't hold back on this one --

He has a point. While the card Congeal tells you it's for 4 turns, the creature ability of the same name reads only "Congeal", leaving the newb to guess.

So, congeal tells you it's for 4 turns. The creature ability of the same name reads only congeal.

I think that if you have an Arctic Squid and paid 1.5k to upgrade it, you are no longer a newbie and probably know how to pass your mouse over a creature to check the turns. There are the number of turns in the card, you know. "Frozen: 4 Turns."

And, naturally, an opposing player or the AI telepathically transmits this knowledge and experience when playing the card, so that people whose only experience with the card is seeing it played by someone else instantly know everything about it. Right?

Seriously, I sometimes get the impression that some EtG veterans have forgotten their own newbie days and how steep the learning curve can be. In addition, long-term vets have seen the game grow so much that they may not realize how much steeper the curve is today, compared to when they started playing. When a new player expresses confusion about something, why is it so difficult to believe that there may be a legitimate reason for that confusion?

[Dm]

Couldn't hold back on this one --

He has a point. While the card Congeal tells you it's for 4 turns, the creature ability of the same name reads only "Congeal", leaving the newb to guess.

So, congeal tells you it's for 4 turns. The creature ability of the same name reads only congeal.

I think that if you have an Arctic Squid and paid 1.5k to upgrade it, you are no longer a newbie and probably know how to pass your mouse over a creature to check the turns. There are the number of turns in the card, you know. "Frozen: 4 Turns."

And, naturally, an opposing player or the AI telepathically transmits this knowledge and experience when playing the card, so that people whose only experience with the card is seeing it played by someone else instantly know everything about it. Right?

Seriously, I sometimes get the impression that some EtG veterans have forgotten their own newbie days and how steep the learning curve can be. In addition, long-term vets have seen the game grow so much that they may not realize how much steeper the curve is today, compared to when they started playing. When a new player expresses confusion about something, why is it so difficult to believe that there may be a legitimate reason for that confusion?

That light insult.

Naturally, any player should know that they can move over a card to know what it says. If I Recall Correctly, that is specified over the Tutorial (AI0) that everyone should have played. Even if it does not, we have a wiki,a  forum, a chat, a kongregate chat, and common knowledge to ask what it does. And if all that fails, knowing you can scroll over something to know what it does is common knowledge all over the internet and several computer related programs.

Seriously, I sometimes get the impression that some people need to be spoon fed all their information, even the most basic ones. One thing is knowing that the learning curve is steep - Yeah, I know that -- But another thing is being completely oblivious to what is happening on the table. If you don't know what a card does and don't even have the decency to scroll over the card to get the least amount of information about it, you shouldn't really be complaining about what the card says or not.

Why is it so difficult to understand that although the card does not specify what it does, you quickly notice what happens after the first time you use it, or scroll over what was targeted by this card?

PS : It's much funnier when you find things out by yourself instead of being spoon fed all your info. You should, if you're even paying attention to the game, know what happens after the first time you use the card (Unless through random effects, in which case you need to use more than once -- but the card will always specify that it is random). So, why require that info to be placed? You know the creature will be frozen, and you will know the turns after you use it.

[Annele]

Why immortality and immaterial make the same?

Because they ARE the same.

Read the question this way: "Why does the game use two different words on different cards to refer to the same ability?"

They aren't exactly the same. Usually, Immortality refers to creatures being untargettable; the Immaterial status refers to a permanent being untargettable.

[Pella]

We're not on the same page here, are we?

#1) We're not talking about a player using a card; the issue results from a player having an unfamiliar card used on him.

#2) Obviously, we all have all the resources you mentioned. It seems clear that our Polish friend did figure out what Congeal does. It seems equally clear that, at the moment our Polish friend found the card used against him, the only information available in-game doesn't actually explain Congeal, but only leaves clues from which the player must speculate. Only by leaving the game screen to consult another resource can a new player learn that Congeal is simply Freeze for one extra turn.

His point, and mine, is not that the information is not available, nor is it an expression of a desire to be "spoon fed". It's an expression of frustration at having something happen to one of your creatures in the middle of a duel and having insufficient resources in-game to have a complete understanding of what just happened. Generally speaking, new players are neither stupid nor lazy. They simply wish what you wish: to know and understand what a card does, when it does it--particularly when it has a negative effect on that player.

That light insult.

Only giving back what was given.

[Pella]

Why immortality and immaterial make the same?

Because they ARE the same.

Read the question this way: "Why does the game use two different words on different cards to refer to the same ability?"

They aren't exactly the same. Immortality refers to creatures being untargettable; the Immaterial status refers to a permanent being untargettable.

Really?
Immortal
Phase Dragon
Anubis

[Dm]

We're not on the same page here, are we?

#1) We're not talking about a player using a card; the issue results from a player having an unfamiliar card used on him. When a card is used on you, you can scroll over it anyway to read what it does; if that does not suffice, should I tell you, for the third time, that we can scroll over what was targeted? You haven't covered that part. Is it because it is correct?

#2) Obviously, we all have all the resources you mentioned. It seems clear that our Polish friend did figure out what Congeal does. It seems equally clear that, at the moment our Polish friend found the card used against him, the only information available in-game doesn't actually explain Congeal, but only leaves clues from which the player must speculate. Only by leaving the game screen to consult another resource can a new player learn that Congeal is simply Freeze for one extra turn. False. You can place the mouse over your card, as I have said in the third or second paragraph of my last post, to know what happened to the card and know that congeal freezes an extra turn. Plus, scrolling over something to know what it does is basic of many games and computer programs, as I have said. Again, didn't you read that part? Are you not addressing it because it is correct? Or are you seriously just skipping what I said to make me repeat myself..? Oh, by the way. I'd like to ask you to stop contradicting yourself. Read your first post in this thread - you told us that Congeal, the card, does tell it is for Four Turns. Now you're telling us that nothing in game tells us what it does... What?

His point, and mine, is not that the information is not available, nor is it an expression of a desire to be "spoon fed". It's an expression of frustration at having something happen to one of your creatures in the middle of a duel and having insufficient resources in-game to have a complete understanding of what just happened. Generally speaking, new players are neither stupid nor lazy. They simply wish what you wish: to know and understand what a card does, when it does it--particularly when it has a negative effect on that player.
Oh, look! AGAIN, the part where I said scroll over a card, that - surprise! - is in game and is definitely available in - game, and that is a knowledge you should have if you even use computers. Or if you even played AI0 like you should. How is scrolling over the card not in - game, as I have said three times in this post and one very long time in the last one? And, if new players are neither stupid nor lazy, then couldn't they, again, scroll over the card that was targeted to know what happened?

That light insult.

Only giving back what was given.

Then let's tone ourselves down before we both get a warning.

Oh, and please don't double post.

[Marsu]

As this discussion proves, most points made by OP were valid points to make.
While contentswise, one may disagree with some or even most of the proposals, they were well thought through (and written in a heart-warming english, as a bonus).
No need for elitist behaviour in front of our, hopefully, new polish member.

[ARTHANASIOS]

And, naturally, an opposing player or the AI telepathically transmits this knowledge and experience when playing the card, so that people whose only experience with the card is seeing it played by someone else instantly know everything about it. Right?

Seriously, I sometimes get the impression that some EtG veterans have forgotten their own newbie days and how steep the learning curve can be. In addition, long-term vets have seen the game grow so much that they may not realize how much steeper the curve is today, compared to when they started playing. When a new player expresses confusion about something, why is it so difficult to believe that there may be a legitimate reason for that confusion?

+rep for this, Pella.

And, dear Dm1321, no one insults anyone. Elmachtronic posted his personal opinion and suggestions, just like anybody else does in here.