The Witch's Game 4

[Fippe94]

This means we have 6 possible suspects for the murders:
Kayla, Olivia, Zack, Leo, Andrew and Ivan.

You were one of the first people to leave the diner's cart. Anyone could have either gone and killed the two in the bathroom or the three in the driver's cart without anyone noticing until later.

Ivan sneaked onto the train through a door after you had entered the train. Once he was inside, he simply hid somewhere.

[Kuroaitou]

Well, you're right about you being one of the first people to leave the diner's cart, but the sentence alone doesn't really solve anything specific, so I'm passing it over.

No murders occurred during the time when you were getting food.

The train conductors (Patty, Marcia, and Jack) made sure that no one snuck onto the train through one of the three open passenger cart doors.

EDIT: I understand the sentence, check above again.

[einherjar145]

Random questions and stuff.

Is the VIP Bathroom and any other areas locked when the passengers entered the train?
Were there anyone imprisoned in the bathrooms?
Were the crowbar and the gun used in the murder? Were they the only items that have killed someone?
Can you walk across each cart from both floors?



Ivan entered with the passengers. He then immediately proceed to enter the VIP bathroom(if it's not locked) or the overhead compartment on the 2nd cart(if it was locked). As Terry(with a bottle of alcohol) came again with a key to open the bathroom for Richard to use, Ivan assaulted him, taking the bottle and killing him. Pulling Terry to the bathroom, Richard came to look for Terry. Ivan saw him and also killed him for security. Pushing him in, he then locked the door with the key. However, the detective was coming at the time, so he ran to the overhead compartment, leaving the key. Knowing that the detective would return to warn people, he began to go to the 5th cart, taking a bottle of alcohol in the diner cart in order to feign ignorance by making himself drunk in the 5th cart's bathroom.

[Kuroaitou]

Not gonna answer all of them per se, but you can't really be 'imprisoned' in a bathroom. You can lock/unlock them from the inside, meaning that if you try to lock someone from the outside with a key, they can simply unlock it from within.

All the carts are connected via doors for the top floor, but not the bottom (the 1st and 2nd carts are disconnected on the bottom only).

Ivan did not enter with the passengers normally, as he knew that he would be searched for a train ticket later on.

[Fippe94]

Ok, let me clarify:
After you left the diner's cart, the only people with alibi is yourself and Kayla. At this time, someone could easily have sneaked to the driver's cart along with Marcia and killed her and the drivers.

Now for how Ivan entered the train:
He entered through an open window.
He entered through a hatch/opening on the roof,
He entered through some sort of hatch/opening under the train.

For Damien:
He was killed in another cart, this is why you never found him.

Also a question: aside from a mention from Patty, Jack was never mentioned in the story at all, right?

[Kuroaitou]

Ok, let me clarify:
After you left the diner's cart, the only people with alibi is yourself and Kayla. At this time, someone could easily have sneaked to the driver's cart along with Marcia and killed her and the drivers.

Now for how Ivan entered the train:
He entered through an open window.
He entered through a hatch/opening on the roof,
He entered through some sort of hatch/opening under the train.

For Damien:
He was killed in another cart, this is why you never found him.

Also a question: aside from a mention from Patty, Jack was never mentioned in the story at all, right?

Jack was never mentioned in the story at all besides the conversation between Patty/Marcia, unless you account for the Warlock's perception of him...

In regards to the 'after you left the diner's cart...' part:

No murders occurred during the time period when people were getting food or returning to their seats.

And some other stuff:

There were no open windows on the train during the time of boarding.
The two hatches/opening panels on the roof were shut and could not be opened with one's hands.
There are no hatches/openings on the bottom or underneath the train due to safety reasons.

Damien was not killed in another cart.

[Submachine]

I don't want to be left out of the fun, so I print the story out so I can read it in a school break tomorrow.
I always have time to log in just to post 1 or 2 white truths, but so far my only difficulty was reading the full story.

Anyway, did anyone try the undetectable ninja's?

[ddevans96]

Ivan used the crowbar to open a hatch on the roof to enter the cart.

I have no clue what I'm doing help

[Kuroaitou]

Ivan used the crowbar to open a hatch on the roof to enter the cart.

Correct. I have no counter.

Right after the conductors entered the train to close the doors, Ivan managed to climb on top of the Engine cart.
Ivan used a crowbar to open a roof panel on top of the Engine cart to enter the train via the Engine room.
When Patty ascended the stairs from the 5th cart bottom floor to begin checking for tickets, Ivan hid in the 5th cart bathroom.


It seems like you know what you're doing actually. X-x;

[ddevans96]

Heh, beginner's luck :3

[Kuroaitou]

Heh, beginner's luck :3

*throws a potato in your general direction*

[Submachine]

Uhh Kuro. I finally had time to read through everything but... this stuff will take long to put everything in its right place, creating the good timeline of events and such... For now, I can only add this:

All the missing people are locked in the closets downstairs, where you found 2 dead bodies first.

Alternatively,

The missing people are on the train's roof. They exited through the hole either where Ivan entered or in the Driver's cabin.

And now some sillyness:

Undetectable ninja's took the train apart while it was moving, pulled the currently missing people off, replaced them to another train and placed everything back.

A hungry individual ate Damien, that's why he cannot be found.