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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116351#msg116351
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2010, 08:58:45 pm »
Gl1tch, can you answer my question? I don't see how it's possible to destroy the element of Life.

And how do I type "ü"?
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116355#msg116355
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2010, 09:02:45 pm »
I know the shortcut key on a Mac; if you are currently using a PC, you should determine which combination of keys is presently enabled to give ü, which should classify as a Symbol.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116356#msg116356
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2010, 09:02:53 pm »
Well, I'm afraid the secret to destroying life is just that.  A secret.  But I'll pose you a question.  If you hated an element so much you killed every single person who knew it, would it survive?  Would the element exist at all?  Perhaps it would, but what if you were to take that line of reasoning one step further?

To type ü, at least on a mac, type alt+u.  You should get the ¨symbol highlighted in yellow.  Then type the appropriate vowel, and let the computer do the rest.  ä ë ï ö ü.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116360#msg116360
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2010, 09:04:48 pm »
However, would it not be slightly contradictory to destroy the Element your character is supposed to be the Master of?

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116361#msg116361
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2010, 09:06:24 pm »
You'll see when you get there.  Now stop asking questions!

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116380#msg116380
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2010, 09:34:12 pm »
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If you hated an element so much you killed every single person who knew it, would it survive?  Would the element exist at all?
Yes, and yes.

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Perhaps it would, but what if you were to take that line of reasoning one step further?
Still don't see how it's possible. As Purity said, there is an "ancient elemental spirit" or something for each element, at least in the sequel of this RPG. I think you can only "destroy" an element if you kill its spirit. But I don't think those spirits should appear in our current RPG, since they're meant for the sequel only.

Remember, Gl1tch, that I like to plan ahead. I want to minimize the chance of a player doing something that another player is not comfortable with.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116384#msg116384
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2010, 09:40:39 pm »
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If you hated an element so much you killed every single person who knew it, would it survive?  Would the element exist at all?
Yes, and yes.

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Perhaps it would, but what if you were to take that line of reasoning one step further?
Still don't see how it's possible. As Purity said, there is an "ancient elemental spirit" or something for each element, at least in the sequel of this RPG. I think you can only "destroy" an element if you kill its spirit. But I don't think those spirits should appear in our current RPG, since they're meant for the sequel only.

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Okay Blood, now riddle me this.  If you were trying to kill life, you wouldn't have to kill everyone who knew how to use the powers of life, would you.  You'd just somehow have to "kill" their life powers.  Now where would those come from?

It's the last hint I'll give you.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116400#msg116400
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2010, 10:06:23 pm »
Exriel will never manifest himself again physically

also, Xanriel isn't in the land of light, he's quite literally in heaven

Also also, he doesn't have the staff of Life anymore, it returns to the temple of Life when he's not using it. Xanriel only killed one village of elves, as far as he knew, the rest were still alive, so if the Temple is no longer there, than the staff is just sitting in the rubble.

Also, Xanriel isn't going insane, he's just retreating his thoughts inside him.

On top of all of that, Xanriel can't make Malignant Cells anymore.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116416#msg116416
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2010, 10:15:59 pm »
Alright then, more edits time.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116428#msg116428
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2010, 10:31:55 pm »
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You'd just somehow have to "kill" their life powers.  Now where would those come from?
You're going to kill Zanthos, the Master of Life? That still won't do, you know. At the end of the Iron Age, after the final battle with the Void, every single Master save for Sekhor died and reincarnated, including pre-Zanthos. The elements did not cease to exist when the Masters died.
Even if you somehow destroy Zanthos's soul permanently, you still can't destroy Life. The Masters were all "appointed", by tying the soul of a creature with an elemental spirit; Bloodshadow was linked with the Spirit of Darkness or something. If you destroy Zanthos's soul, the Spirit of Life would still exist.

Anyways, destroy Life temporarily if you want. Seeing as you are the Master of Life in the forums, I doubt that you'll want to destroy Life permanently.
Although... If you destroy Life, wouldn't every single living creature die instantly? Only the Higher Beings, undead creatures, and Masters can survive without Life.

@Purity: Sudden idea! For the sequel, you are going to have those "ancient elemental spirits", right? We can call them "Avatars". "The Avatar of Darkness", that sounds about right.
And... Master of Darkness + Avatar of Darkness = God of Darkness? Since the antagonist of the sequel is Zanz's brother, we probably will need to become "gods" to defeat him.
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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116430#msg116430
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2010, 10:35:31 pm »
To reiterate again, becoming gods renders everything abjectedly pointless. There is a reason why "godmodding" is a violation of RP rules and etiquette...

Even if the sequel's primary antagonist is Zanz's brother, we do not need to become gods ourselves to defeat him, lest I begin to point you to the multitude of examples in mythology and literature where mortals, yes mortals, defeat or even slay gods.

When a hero is presented with a particularly powerful villain, one's response should never be, "Ok, how do I become a god so I can PWN his #$%". Instead, one's response should be, "He may be powerful, but there will always be a way for me to defeat him as I am; I simply need to find it."

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9727.msg116445#msg116445
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2010, 11:06:37 pm »
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There are ways to bring down a god withough actually being one. Why else would gods fear mortal potential so? And they do fear it, because anytime mortals become too powerful or receive something the gods have been keeping from them, they knock them down a peg. Gods are simply gods becasuse of their limitless power, but having the most power doesn't always mean you will win. After all, I've beaten plenty of videogames having an extremely low level compared to anyone else who beat it and it's call because I prefer strategy over power.

As for killing Life, I don't think it should happen. It would throw all elements out of balance. Now, trying to kill Life is a different story. And to do such a thing, you wouldn't have to destroy simply all that know it, but also all who are alive, because they in themselves hold part of the element of Life.

 

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