Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[kaempfer13]

Quite honestly I dont mind getting misslynched, it's been a draining experience with only really shock listening to me properly

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Alright, reads.

v
serprex - Deja Vu
Linkcat - I still like everything he says. kaempfer13 trying to shade him practically confirms him as town for me. Linkcat gives good argumentations everywhere.

n+
Calindu - I'm honestly not even sure what all the w reads are about. Not going to pile up on lynch votes here.
rob77dp - People I'm townreading are townreading rob and he tried desperately to save someone I'm townreading from getting lynched, which fits town rob not wanting to info lynch town perfectly.
MasterWalks - The most suspicious thing, is that his play seems so much better than last mafia, where he was town. (= no change)
Submachine - Sub being sub and not sus.
iancudorinmarian - Him not coming across as being particularly interested seems typical ian. He'd have more fun orchestrating lynches as mafia, I suspect.

n
Annele - I need more activity here to get a good feels. I'm not getting any feels.
killsdazombies - ^
Geometry v1.2 - ^
andretimpa - ^

n-
shockcannon - I'm useless? lmao. Just bus kaempfer13 so I can let you off the hook for a while.
DoubleCapitals - You will need to clarify what that last night thing targeting was all about. Because it felt like you refusing to bus, like you said you would refuse to. Why killsdazombies over kaempfer13 or Calindu?

w
kaempfer13 - I think I have filled enough pages on why.

[Linkcat]

Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

I hate every single thing hes done this game. He does a shitty target, defends it for 15 pages, and everyone listens. I dont like that

MW, eating Coffee was consensus good play like 40 pages ago, but this does make me townread you more since this is the most unproductive thing you could do as mafia.

[MasterWalks]

Im willing to bus Kaempf, but first i want shock to do 1 of 2 things.

1: Hardclaim
2: Tell us what youve learned about kaempf. Its obv you targetted him N0, and something you learned was enough for you to townread him.

[rob77dp]

Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks

I hate every single thing hes done this game. He does a shitty target, defends it for 15 pages, and everyone listens. I dont like that

MW, eating Coffee was consensus good play like 40 pages ago, but this does make me townread you more since this is the most unproductive thing you could do as mafia.

every fourth thought I have this game is doubting my town read of Link. Then he posts and I fell warm inside again. I almost cannot contain my excitement we may both be town and townread each other for the first time ever. Conversely, it comes with increased dread if this ever ends up work Link being scum :'(

[shockcannon]

Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (3) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks



Kaempf is town but if this is what it takes for people to drastically change their reads then so be it. I will say though, if we lynch kaempf, and then lynch Annele the next day, town will 100% lose this game. I'll bet a nymph code on that.

[Linkcat]

Shock just claim

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Shock just claim

Problem is, who still believes shock claims at this point? Can someone point me to an accurate shock claim in a past mafia?

[rob77dp]

Shock just claim

Problem is, who still believes shock claims at this point? Can someone point me to an accurate shock claim in a past mafia?

speaking for myself I base believing a claim on the claim itself not carte blanche person claiming

[Linkcat]

Shock actually truthfully claimed Otyugh most of the game in 70 I think.

[serprex]

rob: why didn't you target yourself?

[Ge0metry v1.2]

I know some have starting grouping players together and trying to deduce teams, voting blocks, etc. I personally could not understand the logic behind some of it, just a bit small-brained I guess. Didn't want to sheep them though. My readslist may not make logical sense to some people depending on how they have grouped people. Please read as more of a "Geo's attempt at sensing the vibe on people" kind of list, rather than a "Geo logically solves the game on N1".


As I'm writing this list, I realize most of it still feels somewhat weak. In order to compensate, I will not list anyone as a flat n, everyone is at least n+ or n- so that I'm providing some sort of opinion no matter how weak my read on them.

vv
serp - with moe 200% confirmed deja, serp is 200% confirmed himself. this is obvious to most of you I know, but it was a conclusion I deduced with my own brain and I am proud of it

v
link - nothing about his posts feel scummy to me, I'm not sure how some are reading him as scum. having a train started on him late into D1 was seemingly random to me and felt like a mafia play
torb - could be wrong but feel like he is playing fairly "solo", not trying too hard to get on anyone's good side. in fact maybe doing the opposite, staying extremely wary of everyone until confirmed town. feels towny to me.

n++
rob - some of his play confuses me still, but the constant vote switching and his seeming confusion/panic during EOD felt towny to me, I think mafia would be more certain of what they want?
kdz - gut feel still think he's towny, although at this point in the game I guess that's not good enough to have someone in v
sub - I said I wasn't going to sheep but someone mentioned that if sub was scum he would very likely be caught up during EOD and that just makes so much sense to me

n+
andre - scum andre would have received a bit more defense, he has almost died twice and no one seemed to care. poor guy.

dc (n+)
mw (n-)
the two players I am most unsure about, but as promised have assigned them a not completely neutral read

n-
ian - I feel like his posts have little to no substance, doesn't seem to care much about the game, "I'll post a readslist later, maybe" - not a good feel
annele - still gut feel scummy, but similar to how I don't think my gut feel on kdz warrants v, my read on annele doesn't warrant w. of all players, I wish the most to see more content from her.
shock - weirdest read for me, I really like how he presents his logic, but I don't at all agree with his reads if that makes sense. has me worried they are mafia orchestrated narratives, kinda "feels too good to be true" type solving. almost want to put him in w but idk.

w
calindu - low-ish activity and also a "don't really care about the game" vibe, similar to ian. also started the train on link (I could be wrong on this, too lazy to go back and check but I'm fairly certain he was the first or one of the first to vote on link)
kaemp - a lot of his reads contradict mine, this is maybe somewhat of a gut feel as well, but it's my strongest. as I'm writing this post it seems a wagon is forming on him and I'm content to hop on.


Annele (1) - rob7dp
kaempfer13 (4) - serprex, TheonlyrealBeef, shockcannon, Ge0metry v1.2
rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks