Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[Linkcat]

Damn Oa, he got us. Might as well just concede now.

Will be mostly afk for like 2 hours, then I can go diving. Feel free to start without me.

[Linkcat]

And before you guys start tinfoiling, if anyone thinks I orchestrated shit at EoD, you're more insane than me and shock put together, but I appreciate the compliment.

[Annele]

what a mess to wake up to

[Linkcat]

Oh hi Annele, enjoy the rollercoaster, make sure to keep your hands and feet inside the thread at all times.

[moehrpi]

what a mess to wake up to

Be happy there still is something for you to wake up to.

[serprex]

If unlynchable is the reason, this feels like breaking the rules of playing with the intention of winning the game...

Yup.

No, this is happening because U N L Y N C H A B L E

If people are really doing it just so they can say they were part of a Link lynch and not because they'r trying to lync scum, and those same people are town then f that. THat is not playing to win-con.

I guess tone reads aren't intending to the win the game, so modkill for anyone who makes tone reads?

dw you can save wasting NK on me, given enough time I'll work out some way to get MK'd even with how laid back Oa is

Only way Linkcat vote isn't somehow intending to win the game compared to pushing a dead wagon is if mafia is kae/rob. ofc, I can't very well know that can I?

kae/rob aren't w/w because reasons

[Linkcat]

Calm down guys, nobody's intentionally throwing by voting me, they're just silly and/or mafia.

Quick observations before I go watch some Glee to decompress:

Rob is lock town, there's no way he tries as hard as me to save me as I do when he could easily just let me die and say, "Sorry guys, I tried." when he already has two confirmed town to NK.
Sub is lock town, if he's mafia he's communicating with his teammates, not coming into the thread clueless at the last minute. He also wouldn't be constantly behind on the game by spending all that time doing quotewalls and not actively contributing.

MW is pretty town, he has no reason to get off me after being stubborn all that time and it's line with how he plays.
Andre is pretty town, he has no reason to offer to go Annele over me when he gets a free justification for his vote.

2/5 votes on me are confirmed town, (thanks guys) so that means there's 1-2 mafia in Annele, kaempfer, and shock. Offensive Roles, Warden, and Psion should go here. Assuming Annele is mafia and my reads aren't horribly wrong, the rest are in Calin and the non-voters (DC, kdz, maybe Torb) and maybe iancu, don't think Ge0 would park his vote on a teammate like that, especially during EoD when he was at least somewhat around. If Annele isn't mafia then things get complicated. I believe she should be our next lynch and it's a real travesty that we have to waste another day on this since we dropped the ball Day 1.

I'm planning on making a play-by-play of EoD so that we don't all have to go through 20 pages every time we want to analyze it, but no promises.

[rob77dp]

?EOD1 final votecount?
andretimpa (4) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp

OK, well - final vote count of sorts... there was an apparent legit attempt by Sub to get over onto Annele, for what that's worth.

For anybody harboring or holding a scum-read on Link, please let me in on what leads you to that conclusion or read. The tinfoil has to be pretty strong for me to see a scenario where wolf!Link is so cavalier about himself being that close to getting lynched when he would know he is 1/4 of a team and would almost surely think that his team needs him alive to win. I struggle to see a wolf!Link scum-team coming up with a plan out of the gate for Day 1 implementation where Link is going to bandy about in broad daylight and risk himself... I normally am one to downplay "danger" of getting lynched when many players are quite concerned of "being too clsoe to EOD!" but today's events were real in terms of his being a lynch candidate.

In _both_ worlds, the one I find most likely right now of town!Link and where he is scum!Link, I don't think the town at-large on our site gets to a point of just "wanting to see him die" and/or actually finding him the scummiest player worth lynching. That is, if he is scum then it had to be part of a plan that scum go heavy/vote-him on Day 1 for credit if he flips _or_ scum saw a chance to mislynch a town!Link. This is how I see the events overall EOD1.

Also, just giving opening looks at the vote counts and wagons -- I have to agree with Link's take that with serp/moe as towns there is probably 1 or 2 (more would be very surprising unless the team is exactly Annele, kae, shock, and ?timpa? - hm, not sure how to feel about that given that timpa/Annele were the only other legit wagon choices at real EOD and timpa throws onto Annele at the dearth? nah, it is not that exact four, so I doubt also it is the trio either). So a town!Link wagon looks to probably have 1, or 2, scum on it, among Annele / kae / shock.

TL;DR-- It makes most sense to me for a world where Link is town, and that 1 or 2 of the trio of Annele/kae/shock are scum on his wagon at EOD.

[rob77dp]

UGH, what is that... I didn't edit what I copied, but yet:

EBWOP:

?EOD1 final votecount?
andretimpa (3) - Calindu, Submachine, MasterWalks
Linkcat (5) - Annele, kaempfer13, serprex, shockcannon, moehrpi
Annele (5) - Ge0metry, Linkcat, andretimpa, iancudorinmarian, rob77dp

(I see now, I copied the incorrect post of the count...)

[rob77dp]

Serp are you at liberty to share the "because reasons"?? You've pushed and suspected both kae and I various points of Day 1. I've been holding a town-read on kae for a bit... he has had a town-read on me for a bit too.

[serprex]

No

[DoubleCapitals]

Sorry I fell asleep early and didn't see shit. Honest looks like the worst possible outcome occurred. I'd have wagoned things if I could it'll at least say something about me