Elements Mafia 73 - by PlayerOa

[serprex]

Annele (4) - rob77dp, Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex

I'll vote with shock on kae if shock drops the "I can confirm kae but okay let's infolynch" spiel

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Only flaw in that was how much you prioritized not getting targeted n1. This doesnt match your mindset from your towngame at all, where you were even glad when you finally died after a job well done, when there were better roles around (in this game those would be 2 conftown, 0 chance that you'd die and much lower chance to get targeted by a green nymph that doesnt have a way of knowing that youd be targetable unless mafia)

In the case of Linkcat being town and Annele/andre being scum it's better to let confirmed town that votes along with scum die, from my point of view. I lynch-vote people for believing they are scum. This is not the impression I got from the moehrpi/serprex votes. You can dislike my play style as much as you want, but it won't change the fact I'm town.

Another flaw in that is how we know serprex was targeted by Anubis while town!Anubis should have 0 reason to target conftown with no active ability (no way they get eaten by an oty, very well possible they get targeted by a heal; ofc this assumes competent town, which may be a stretch tbh). No, i dont buy you would have realized/cared that anubis outprioritizes heal. This way if moe got healed he would still be guarantedd dead next round and your Anubis ability would be free for use on a teammate. besides, you only realized that later on.
More importantly, mafia anubis should be going for the graboid disguise (see like ginyu here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-71-by-submachine/msg1291062/#msg1291062) as you did asap and thus not be able to use his ability on n1 unless adrenalined.

Except I'm not Anubis, and I can be targeted next night to prove it.

[kaempfer13]

In case you'll claim you got wardened a massclaim may be in order

[rob77dp]

Annele (3) -  Linkcat, DoubleCapitals, iancudorinmarian
kaempfer13 (7) - Ge0metry v1.2, andretimpa, Calindu, MasterWalks, shockcannon, killsdazombies, Annele
Linkcat (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, serprex, rob77dp

Let's play ball.

[kaempfer13]

Anyway the synergy:
Linkcat: Neither of his teammates was able to vote near the deadline iirc (TorB claiming graboid and Calindu not being online iirc), besides ian and sub expressed readiness to save Link anyway, so not really necessary. Obv I have no idea who the 4th is.
The rest of them are very connected through the Anubis theory obv. Also Cal supporting TorB through claiming he was targetable.

[rob77dp]

Link-

Why did your N1 plan so easily dismiss Psioin and suggest a tinfoil-elimination target? A great mind for this game like town!Link surely has could have come up with something not "game is solved anyway" right? (I take the blame for following the plan in so far as I too was not really able to surely discern a better use for my Psionic Link......)

[kaempfer13]

dinner then I give my final reads (they havent changed much tbh) and try to give the most to the point explanation of them.

[rob77dp]

Anyway the synergy:
Linkcat: Neither of his teammates was able to vote near the deadline iirc (TorB claiming graboid and Calindu not being online iirc), besides ian and sub expressed readiness to save Link anyway, so not really necessary. Obv I have no idea who the 4th is.
The rest of them are very connected through the Anubis theory obv. Also Cal supporting TorB through claiming he was targetable.

So you would be in a world where timpa and Annele are town from your Link/TorB/Cal scumread position, right? That is, you want Link as the lynch now b/c you scumread him from his play - would you agree also that clear Annele Day 1? (I could see a world where Annele was a last ditch effort to save himself EVEN IF ANNELE is scum... how do you, or anyone, read that?)

[rob77dp]

Also, note that Sub voted timpa to save Link near-ish EOD1, then supposed to vanish like less than 90 seconds from EOD (seriously WTF on that) but a yell from Link got Sub trying to change to Annele to save Link. I guess a scummon read there might be in order if Link is scum (to your question kae about who is #4 in your world of Link/TorB/Cal).

How do you read Link's scum-read of Cal then, if you see them w/w?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Anyway the synergy:
Linkcat: Neither of his teammates was able to vote near the deadline iirc (TorB claiming graboid and Calindu not being online iirc), besides ian and sub expressed readiness to save Link anyway, so not really necessary. Obv I have no idea who the 4th is.
The rest of them are very connected through the Anubis theory obv. Also Cal supporting TorB through claiming he was targetable.

So you would be in a world where timpa and Annele are town from your Link/TorB/Cal scumread position, right? That is, you want Link as the lynch now b/c you scumread him from his play - would you agree also that clear Annele Day 1? (I could see a world where Annele was a last ditch effort to save himself EVEN IF ANNELE is scum... how do you, or anyone, read that?)

The problem with that, is that the timpa train had a lead, no idea why they suddenly switched to an Annele train. Might be interesting to look into.

[rob77dp]

Also, note that Sub voted timpa to save Link near-ish EOD1, then supposed to vanish like less than 90 seconds from EOD (seriously WTF on that) but a yell from Link got Sub trying to change to Annele to save Link. I guess a scummon read there might be in order if Link is scum (to your question kae about who is #4 in your world of Link/TorB/Cal).

How do you read Link's scum-read of Cal then, if you see them w/w?

Also, I don't see anything that prevents it from being kdz as your #4, or Ge0 ??

[rob77dp]

Anyway the synergy:
Linkcat: Neither of his teammates was able to vote near the deadline iirc (TorB claiming graboid and Calindu not being online iirc), besides ian and sub expressed readiness to save Link anyway, so not really necessary. Obv I have no idea who the 4th is.
The rest of them are very connected through the Anubis theory obv. Also Cal supporting TorB through claiming he was targetable.

So you would be in a world where timpa and Annele are town from your Link/TorB/Cal scumread position, right? That is, you want Link as the lynch now b/c you scumread him from his play - would you agree also that clear Annele Day 1? (I could see a world where Annele was a last ditch effort to save himself EVEN IF ANNELE is scum... how do you, or anyone, read that?)

The problem with that, is that the timpa train had a lead, no idea why they suddenly switched to an Annele train. Might be interesting to look into.

Because I was trying to be a strong presence (hopefully was?) and had stated my direct desire for Annele over andre the last half-hour or so of the day... scum team maybe trying to follow me as I was def leading the anti-Link wagon pushes on timpa and Annele. So if they feel I am wanting Annele their best bet is to also go with me?? Dunno exactly I guess, I only have so much info to base these hypothesis on.