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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241836#msg1241836
« Reply #120 on: August 20, 2016, 10:27:56 pm »
I explained that in another post. People that I know have played a lot and I'm more familiar with are at the top. People that have played varying amounts and I'm less familiar with are in the middle. People that haven't played much and I know little to nothing about are at the bottom.

It's all subjective.


Why do we even care about the rocks?

The rocks are like super-secret breadcrumbs for Artemis. Artemis (aka the detective) can throw them to people that have been confirmed as civilians by the use of On the Hunt. We will have a list of everyone that has had a rock. Once Artemis dies or steps forward to call out a mafia member, we can see if Artemis is on the list of Rock throwers. If Artemis is revealed by having died, we will see who they threw a rock to, and know that (if Artemis has been paying attention to this strategy) the person Artemis hit with a rock is innocent. If Artemis steps forward by calling out a mafia, we still get this information, but Artemis can also just say who all the civilians are.

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241837#msg1241837
« Reply #121 on: August 20, 2016, 10:29:58 pm »
Yeah, we'd have to reveal how the rocks traveled after the Night Phase. Night 0 throws can of course be ignored.
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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241838#msg1241838
« Reply #122 on: August 20, 2016, 10:33:01 pm »
Artemis, if you have a rock this round, it's better to throw it than hold on to it. If you hold on to it and throw it next round after you've found a civilian, revealing in the thread who you threw to will make public that you didn't throw on the first night. Mafia would likely guess that you are Artemis if that occurred.

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241839#msg1241839
« Reply #123 on: August 20, 2016, 10:37:14 pm »
Using a rock also shows you weren't targeted by Theia or sand.
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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241840#msg1241840
« Reply #124 on: August 20, 2016, 10:46:31 pm »
Dema, I've been thinking about this problem too, and I found the solution. Artemis, don't throw your rock if you have one. Everyone else, don't say if you threw a rock, and if you received a rock, don't say whether you received a rock or started with it.

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241841#msg1241841
« Reply #125 on: August 20, 2016, 11:13:44 pm »
What happens if two people use sand on eachother?
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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241842#msg1241842
« Reply #126 on: August 20, 2016, 11:22:17 pm »
They're both roleblocked, I assume.
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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241846#msg1241846
« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2016, 11:33:22 pm »
Alive. Looks like I missed the first wave of posts.

So to summarize: If a rock gets thrown at you n2, check the breadcrumb of the person who threw a rock at you, and throw it there. If n3 onwards, check whoever breadcrumb-ed the person who threw a rock at you, and then throw the rock to whoever that person points on the day? Or are we supposed to send rocks back?

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241849#msg1241849
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2016, 11:37:20 pm »
No, you just throw rocks at whoever you think is Artemis.
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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241850#msg1241850
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2016, 11:42:42 pm »
Oh right, that was assuming that Artemis already had the rock. She probably doesn't.

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241851#msg1241851
« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2016, 11:49:46 pm »
What happens if two people use sand on eachother?
In the extremely unlikely circumstance this happens (statistics!), both players are like "wtf why'd you throw sand?" and are roleblocked on any further abilities/items.

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Re: Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62664.msg1241854#msg1241854
« Reply #131 on: August 20, 2016, 11:56:57 pm »
Link you're going to have to explain why no one should reveal who they throw rocks at, and why no one should reveal who threw a rock at them. As I see it, that's subpar to making the information public. Making it public forces mafia members to throw the rock if they get it. It also means we don't have to rely on lazy players posting "breadcrumbs" or searching for them.

 

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