Elements Mafia 62 - by Solaris

[Kuroaitou]

Kuro did you even read we have 3 mafia, you goofball

Kuro, did you read the whole thread?

Yes now I did - I miscounted the total by one, so that was my fault. I've been reading the more bulky posts and arguments between players to get actual reads, rather than the Q&A issues (which, by the way, Solaris -STILL- hasn't updated his original post with). :|

So you believe that the RavingRabbid night kill was a choice of inexperience, rather than to cause confusion and doubt?

Hm... rob: I think Ryli wanted to know if you think RR's kill was more about inexperience rather than confusion/doubt in regards to 'kill priority' list that Demagog conjured on Night 0.

[Kuroaitou]

EBWOP: Okay, clearly this mafia is taking a toll on me mentally, because I forgot about the 1:5 ratio discussion we talked about earlier. Wow.

Side note - where you at fabian? danil? dawn to dusk?

[Espithel]

Are you seriously asking where dawn is as if he ever exists ever

[rob77dp]

CleO:

In doing a few more basic level ISO's, I was looking at the top of the player-post-count list and in your ISO I was left wanting some more from you so I could try to develop a better read.

1. List the 3 most likely mafia players, in your view, from the current living player pool.

2. Which 4 players do you think are most likely town, in your opinion?

3. Pass on the above items #1 and #2 to at least one player among DC, Espi, or sky.

[Espithel]

Why DC, Espithel, or Sky?

Yeah, that essentially just narrows down the nightkill to three targets, especially given how one of them is CONFIRMEDtm.

Ew.

[rob77dp]

Why DC, Espithel, or Sky?

Yeah, that essentially just narrows down the nightkill to three targets, especially given how one of them is CONFIRMEDtm.

Ew.

Who is confirmed mechanically? nobody but myself for me...

That trio describes the highest posters that have not given content at a level I feel comfortable "reading" or attempting to read excluding myself and the host.

Lc - plenty of posts I feel Ok trying to read
Dema - plenty of posts I feel Ok trying to read
DC - on my list passed to CleO
Espi - on my list passed to CleO
CleO - is CleO
sky - on my list passed to CleO
Kuro - plenty of posts I feel Ok trying to read

[Demagog]

Hey, if you guys need to kill me so that you can see I was being 100% truthful, go ahead. My only criteria is that in future games you never think I'm mafia for supporting someone else's hard claim (Kuro's post was a hard claim even if it was a lie) or for saying I don't care if I die. If I get a pure vanilla role, I am smart enough to understand that a lynch is better on me if we have nothing to go on. I think we do have this game to go on right now though. And I don't have to care about dying to call people idiots when they lynch me and all my actions have been super pro-town. I'm just saying that because that has always been something I've done. Any of you that are voting on me at this point in the game when there are better options than me are idiots.

Kuro was the only reason I voted on Link, and now Link is the person I am most inclined to see as town.

Also, I am really feeling DoubleC is mafia... just a hunch. If I do end up dead, check him out for me?

I will look at who to vote on in a bit. Obviously it will have to be on someone to keep myself alive.

[Demagog]

Ebwop: phone failed a bit in that first paragraph but I think you can figure out what I was trying to say.

[CleanOnion]

CleO:

In doing a few more basic level ISO's, I was looking at the top of the player-post-count list and in your ISO I was left wanting some more from you so I could try to develop a better read.

1. List the 3 most likely mafia players, in your view, from the current living player pool.

2. Which 4 players do you think are most likely town, in your opinion?

3. Pass on the above items #1 and #2 to at least one player among DC, Espi, or sky.

Uh... who's confirmed?

1. Um. I'm not good at this.
I literally do not have any reads at the minute. I haven't thoroughly read through in a while and I don't know what's changed or who's said what.

2. See 1.

3. Uh, I'll take you, robby, and sky, just because I'm curious to see the answers.

If it's any help to anyone, I used Brick and Mortar last night

[Demagog]

Hey Kuro, any chance we could get some kind of spreadsheet with how often people have correct reads? It can be sectioned by rounds. It's easier to correctly call out a mafia later in the game so players that live longer would have a better % if it was just one percentage that we used.

That way I can point to out how bad people are at their reads. You can probably put it on that mafia awards spreadsheet.

And if anyone has significantly better reads it would make me more inclined to believe them. As often as I am falsely accused, I never believe reads people make here.

[Ryli]

So you believe that the RavingRabbid night kill was a choice of inexperience, rather than to cause confusion and doubt?

Hm... rob: I think Ryli wanted to know if you think RR's kill was more about inexperience rather than confusion/doubt in regards to 'kill priority' list that Demagog conjured on Night 0.

I feel a mafia of 3 inexperienced players would have picked out a player higher on Demagog's list, feeling more threatened by them than a hardened mafia player.

I'm sure someone had a reason for targeting RR, and it wasn't just a case of "no info let's dice roll it", what kind of suspicions were they trying to cause, and why?

Maybe I'm just putting too much significance on this issue. Barking up the wrong tree, or even just barking mad.

[Kuroaitou]

Hey Kuro, any chance we could get some kind of spreadsheet with how often people have correct reads? It can be sectioned by rounds. It's easier to correctly call out a mafia later in the game so players that live longer would have a better % if it was just one percentage that we used.

That way I can point to out how bad people are at their reads. You can probably put it on that mafia awards spreadsheet.

And if anyone has significantly better reads it would make me more inclined to believe them. As often as I am falsely accused, I never believe reads people make here.

That's way too complex; how does one define 'a read'? There's also no way I'm going to do that for the previous mafias given how long some of them are (...Linkcat X_x), but if you want to check it yourself and provide the statistics, then by all means, do so. You might get the FGO position if you're that dedicated.

That being said, I suppose I was being way too harsh on you in regards to your professed scumhunting, and I'm sorry about that. But the yellow-blue statements that I made in my multi-colored fabulous post have a reason and merit. Even if you don't trust me, that's fine - if you watch the day's public anonymous board, you'll hopefully be able to see some new patterns instead of a board with just shitposting.