Elements Mafia 51 - by Submachine

[dawn to dusk]

ok i wasnt thinking

use the magic billboard to tell us voting power and that you voted on ginyu's train

[Ginyu]

May I ask why it becomes more and more likely that I am scum?
I mean, the little bit of nothing rob brought up with his pattern is not only countered by objective explanations, but now also disproved by ian being Town. My vote on him was, as I said, basically a defense-vote, as I would've died otherwise (well, at least more probably). I also said I didn't believe in ian being scum and voted him because he asked to.

A question to Sub: How does the curse actually work? Does it change the vote to anyone else, or will it just switch to another stack? The wording suggests the first, but I wanna get sure.

By the way, I already told my role to goni when she was revived and before it was forbidden. I hope we still have confirmed towns; if so: goni may have written that on civvy pad. Of course it is not save that I was honest, but lying about your secondary is a risk move that may easily be exposed.

[dawn to dusk]

May I ask why it becomes more and more likely that I am scum?

oh, that? thats just because im searching through the thread and finding more and more psychological reasons to lynch you, which any self-preserving player on these forums would call complete bullshit.

i mean i could say player X is buddying up to player Y and say that this is a scum tell

Spoiler for Quote from mafia site explaining this:

Buddying is extremely anti-town. It makes you look like you're either trying to stop a lynch of a player really badly (which might be a sign of them being your partner if you're scum), or that you're trying to buddy up to a townie if you flip scum. It's a great tactic to get on a pro-town player's good side as well, by agreeing with them a great deal.

player X can just say "wtf does that even mean" and no further questions would need to be asked, despite it being a tactic which has gotten countless mafia in past games (read: not on this forum)
now i could go into detail about how mafia hosts could be trying to make this more and more of a legit tactic but meh

point is, no matter what i say, no matter what rob said, it can just be passed of as bullshit so claiming a case against you, or anyone, is next to useless.

we cant play follow the leader in this game, since there is no leader that we can confirm. the closest thing we have is kuro, and thats because of painweaver. unless we actually try to scumhunt, we will do crap all

slightly worried about language but it might be fine so ok
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[dawn to dusk]

do note that i do enjoy playing mafia on these forums and that the above post was not meant to discriminate or put down any person in any way

this is why i prefer playing as scum, because you get to lie and do stuff like that

[Submachine]

A question to Sub: How does the curse actually work? Does it change the vote to anyone else, or will it just switch to another stack? The wording suggests the first, but I wanna get sure.

The Moonwolf's Curse makes the cursed player primarily vote on another, random player who is already on the voting tally. However, if there is only 1 stack of votes and the cursed player votes on it, the vote will be randomized to someone who has been not voted on yet.

If the cursed player doesn't vote, the curse won't take effect, because there will be no vote to be redirected.

I should put these in DSc&E.

[Ginyu]

Ohhh ~

Okay, that tells a lot. So, if one player on my list was cursed, s/he had a 50% chance to move to ian.
That's just another possibility next to bard thing, but it might help to find out who the cursed player is.

[Solaris]

If I die and flip town, lynch Espithel.

[Submachine]

Chapter 7

Coffeeditto died by a Wolfbite last night.
He was a Human Town Guard.

The following people need to vote today to avoid modkill:
worldwideweb3
theelkspeaks
mathman101
savvy14112
Physsion

If 10 or more people post that they need faster gameplay, I am willing to lower the waiting time between phases from 48 to 36 hours.
Currently only 2 people replied back for this.

Spoiler for Town Crier:

Hear ye! Hear ye! The following roles has been used during the night:
Assist
High Society
Imprison
Noble Manor
Publicity
Publicity
Publicity
Wolfbite

Ears of the public, listen to my words:
Ginyu has 1 primary and 1 secondary role.
Ginyu has 1 primary and 1 secondary role.

On the blackboard of Central Village, the following notes were written:

Spoiler for Ves'cer'uir:

2nd bard here, (not the one who voted on iancudorinmarian).
I voted on ginyu, and i currently have 2.5 voting power. I did not abstain when votin on Ginyu either. Use this information to your liking.

Time left until night 7:
No time left!

*Edit 1 [september 28, 16:05 GMT]: Corrected abilities announced by Town Crier.
*Edit 2 [september 28, 16:25 GMT]: Corrected abilities announced by Town Crier again. Hopefully for the last time.

[Submachine]

ORGANIZER NOTE:

I forgot to add Income to the used abilities list in the previous chapters, but it is fixed now.

[CrockettRocket]

Savvy(1) - CrockettRocket

No actual reason. Just hasn't been too active or helpful in finding mafia, which can kind of be said about myself, but I dont like my role so if you guys wanna lynch me for the same reason idc

[savvy14112]

I have been traveling a lot in the recent few days, there are several other people who haven't contributed at all either.  We really shouldn't lynch without reason.
 Thanks Crockett!!!

[CrockettRocket]

I have been traveling a lot in the recent few days, there are several other people who haven't contributed at all either.  We really shouldn't lynch without reason.
 Thanks Crockett!!!

Agreed, but because you can respond to this so fast why couldnt you before? "Traveling" as an excuse is just awfully convenient compared to now. And you don't usually contribute too much in mafias from my perspective for town, so if we lose you it doesn't seem all that harmful if you flip town. If you don't like it, go ahead and throw a retaliation vote. I'm just trying to get the ball rolling.