Buff/Nerf Card setup

[Jaxly]

Just looking through the nerf/buff section and it seemed really haphazard. There were multiple posts on the same card, locked topics and it was generally a scrawl down to find the cards you were looking for.
I'm not sure if anyone with the power to do this has the time/feels the need to do this, but I think that section would be improved by changing the format to one identical to the cards section. That is, with cards under each of their respective elements and moderated by a forumy person. Polls would be set up for each of the cards in the same way its done now, and new valid suggestions could be added when asked for.
That way multiple posts and locked topics would never occur, it would be easier to see all arguments on a specific card and ideas for its change and it would be much quicker to find the card you're interested in.
I'd be willing to help out if anyone thinks this would make this section better.

[DrunkDestroyer]

While I can see your point, I have to disagree with this in general.

The cards section has, say, 15 cards per element. And there are twelve elements.
Reposting all of those into two buff/nerf sections seems quite ridiculous. That could be divided once again into twelve (thirteen) sections, with all the cards listed. However, considering the amount of posts per thread on other large divided subsection, I don't think that people will be queing up to post their valued judgement on the current card balance of 'Dragonfly in relation to the current PvP metagame and the relative stregnth of other, similar costing cards.

As of right now, the most discussed posts stay near the top, easily accessible. Not every card in the game should be over/under powered, therefore there shouldn't be that many cards that actually need that much discussion. Less intelligent suggestions are sometimes locked, or left to die on their own accord. Middle ranking ones fade over time. It automatically prioritises itself, to give you the most popular options.

Now, card balance isn't really about popularity. But to be very frank, the polls in the section suggest otherwise. There are comments like 'Yes, it is overpowered but it would ruin the game to nerf it now'. That sentence itself shows what kind of people are voting. So what it really does is shows how the average player thinks about the card. (This is a very generic statement, there is some great work going on there too and I hate to detract from it with this). But I'm not going to get in a huge rant about this.

So basically, in my view, it seems extravagant and will probably see little use, when the popularity = readability thing we have going on now seems to work well enough in the context of the buff/nerf section itself.

However, I completely accept that some of the locked/merged/duplicated topics can be confusing. If you have any ways for me to improve, this topic will be on my 'New Unread Replies', or you could PM me, and I'll be sure to do what I can.

[Jaxly]

Thanks for the reply DrunkDestroyer 
 
"Reposting all of those into two buff/nerf sections seems quite ridiculous."
Sorry, I didn't explain it properly.
This is the layout I meant.
Buff/Nerf Section   [Header and choices underneath - as in "Cards"]

  Aether                  Air
  Darkness              Death
  Earth                    Entropy
  Fire                        Gravity
  Life                        Light
  Time                      Water
                    Other

Say you select Fire.
Lists;

• Ash Eater/Brimstone Eater
• Crimson Dragon/Ruby Dragon
• Fire Spirit/Fire Spectre
• Fire Bolt/Fire Lance
• Fire Shield/Fire Buckler
• Deflag/Explosion
• etc

Select Crimson Dragon/Ruby Dragon

Crimson Dragon --> Ruby Dragon
Poll and viewable posts.
Poll includes both Buff and Nerf suggestions.
Posts include both buff and nerf suggestions.
New poll choices added as suggested.

Clicks needed to find topic from home: 2
Clicks needed under current system: 2(+1 per each subsequent page searched)
ie. Crimson dragon on page 3 clicks to find: 4 (more trawling time)

I never understood why two sides of a card debate (Buff/Nerf) were separated in the way they were. Seems kinda counterproductive.

"I don't think that people will be queing up to post their valued judgement on the current card balance of 'Dragonfly in relation to the current PvP metagame and the relative stregnth of other, similar costing cards."You're right on this, but I'm not suggesting we create the topic; its already there - just that it's made easier to access. Easier navigation is pretty much always a good thing.
Dragonfly/Damselfly currently has 28 posts under buff and 0 under nerfed.
Granted not all posts were enlightening but there were quite a few that were worthwhile.

"Less intelligent suggestions are sometimes locked, or left to die on their own accord. Middle ranking ones fade over time."
Suggestions would all be in post form rather than a whole new topic. It'd be easier to maintain as nothing would need to be locked. Decent suggestions could be added to the poll. The poll has all suggestions of all interested members of the forums - a fuller choice and spread of concentrated ideas.

"That sentence itself shows what kind of people are voting."
Can't argue with you here either. People do vote to buff the cards they use more. I just think that polls can also be used to highlight good ideas. Regardless of wether or not the best idea is getting votes, it is still being highlighted as a solution
in an easily viewable, comparable way.

"it seems extravagant and will probably see little use"
I think it'd probably see the same use as the current layout, but with a bit less frustration and a bit more concentrated information on access. That being the case I think people would be more likely to use it again, especially if their idea became a poll choice in an important permanent topic. This as opposed to their idea going to a locked out/ignored topic, which I reckon would make people feel bad about themselves.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
I understand that this might just be too much work to be bothered with but I think it would be an improvement to the current layout. As I said I'd be willing to lend a hand in anything not too programmer orientated.
A reply of yes this'll work/no, not viable would be grand.