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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg286859#msg286859
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 10:14:49 am »
Very inter interesting PC card for time! Got my vote.

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg294658#msg294658
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2011, 12:05:39 pm »
Yay, it's Crucible-ready! :D

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg295570#msg295570
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 08:31:10 pm »
Why does the upgraded varsion's ability cost more?

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg295601#msg295601
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2011, 09:12:39 pm »
Why does the upgraded varsion's ability cost more?
Golden Relic's Vend ability costs more on the upgraded version because it's meant to be used by your opponent using Touch of Midas' effect ;)

Turning your opponent's permanent into a Golden Relic is equivalent to destroying it; making the Vend ability cost more makes it more difficult for your opponent to take advantage of its one-time card draw.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg295633#msg295633
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 10:04:38 pm »
What if I want to draw a card by having a golden relic?

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg295635#msg295635
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2011, 10:07:41 pm »
What if I want to draw a card by having a golden relic?
You can target your own permanents with Touch of Midas. Both versions use the same overall amount of quanta (2+2 vs. 1+3).

Just keep in mind that you can only use the Vend ability once before discarding it (just like igniting an Unstable Gas).
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg295739#msg295739
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2011, 01:16:50 am »
What if I want to draw a card by having a golden relic?
You can target your own permanents with Touch of Midas. Both versions use the same overall amount of quanta (2+2 vs. 1+3).

Just keep in mind that you can only use the Vend ability once before discarding it (just like igniting an Unstable Gas).
Now i like this card even more.
Also, i think you're right to use it only for permanent control. Adding creature control would make it too powerful and too versatile and difficult to balance. This way it has the cost of a deflagration, with the "draw card" drawback, that also can be used to speed up your deck.
Really clever.

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg400984#msg400984
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2011, 06:11:39 am »
Sorry for the necro, but I have to say this is really a great idea. I was actually just about to make a Time card of my own that was really similar to this, but instead of leaving a Golden Relic it would leave Ruins, which is basically a deadweight permanent that does nothing and is immaterial (good thing I thought to check in the Crucible first...). This adds an interesting extra dimension that can potentially benefit the opposing player.

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg400989#msg400989
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 06:33:20 am »
Here's some better art.



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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg401279#msg401279
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2011, 08:00:35 pm »
I would just have it turn the card into a Relic and let the original owner keep the Relic, alongside the original card.
This way you're effectively giving your opponent electrum by using it, which seems very fitting.

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg401369#msg401369
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2011, 12:26:10 am »
I would just have it turn the card into a Relic and let the original owner keep the Relic, alongside the original card.
This way you're effectively giving your opponent electrum by using it, which seems very fitting.
That's rather exploitable if two players meet up in PvP2 and just continue to Mindgate Touch of Midas on Cat-powered Bone Walls (7 charges each, and only 1 charge will be expended per use of Touch of Midas) with flying Pulvy or BE Cat to remove the extra Relics until both players have over 2000 Relic cards from the suggested effect.

TL;DR version: No matter how ridiculously difficult it is to pull off the particular combo, there are people who will still try to exploit it.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg401381#msg401381
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2011, 12:41:11 am »
I'm afraid you're both wrong.

It couldn't turn a permanent into a Relic because Relic is a spell.

And you couldn't remove extra Relics with PC for the same reason.
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