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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg501348#msg501348
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2012, 02:41:44 pm »
I've always wanted Time to have a PC card. And this doubles as extra draw power to you if you need it. Awesome!
Just a question: If you use it on pillars or pendulums that are stacked, what happens? Do all of them turn into Golden Relic (Way too OP) or do the Goloden Relic move to another slot? If so, what happens if the slots are full?
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg501657#msg501657
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2012, 02:50:51 am »
I've always wanted Time to have a PC card. And this doubles as extra draw power to you if you need it. Awesome!
Just a question: If you use it on pillars or pendulums that are stacked, what happens? Do all of them turn into Golden Relic (Way too OP) or do the Goloden Relic move to another slot? If so, what happens if the slots are full?
If Touch of Midas is used on a permanent that is stackable (Pillars, Pendulums, Shards, Bone Wall, etc.), then it will only transform one card in the stack.

If the target requires movement to another permanent slot (weapons and shields are also transferred from their special slots to a regular permanent slot) and all available permanent slots are full, then Touch of Midas can't be used.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg501789#msg501789
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2012, 11:25:25 am »
If the target requires movement to another permanent slot (weapons and shields are also transferred from their special slots to a regular permanent slot) and all available permanent slots are full, then Touch of Midas can't be used.
I think the best behavior should be the same when you use steal and you have all permanent slots filled, for consistency.
I believe (i'm not sure) that in that case Steal behave like a Deflagration: destroy on his side while not creating on your side.

I think that Touch of Midas should behave the same: destroy a permanent without creating the Golden Relic. After all, filling all opponent permanent slots could become a strategy, exactly like filling creature slots (see Aflatoxin!).

Sidenote: i somehow forgot how useful and balanced this card is. And i never considered using it on my own permanents to accelerate drawing.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg1008855#msg1008855
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2012, 05:17:51 am »
How about exchanging the ability cost of the unupped|upped Golden Relic, but unupped permanent becomes unupped Golden Relic and upped one becomes upped?
That's how the Skull Shield | Skull Buckler works and seems reasonable.
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg1158006#msg1158006
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2014, 03:14:19 am »
Been playing the version of this implemented in oEtG. Its definitely a lot of fun. Makes time a very serious threat!
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg1162481#msg1162481
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2014, 11:47:32 pm »
why does the ability of the golden relic cost more it should cost less and the upped relic should not be a relic because of the fact that relics are dead nymphs and your golden relic is not a dead nymph
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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg1162507#msg1162507
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2014, 02:29:34 am »
why does the ability of the golden relic cost more it should cost less and the upped relic should not be a relic because of the fact that relics are dead nymphs and your golden relic is not a dead nymph

The cost actually makes the card stronger.

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Re: Touch of Midas | Touch of Midas https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21604.msg1162546#msg1162546
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2014, 08:45:26 am »
why does the ability of the golden relic cost more it should cost less and the upped relic should not be a relic because of the fact that relics are dead nymphs and your golden relic is not a dead nymph
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