Sun | Giant Star

[Xenocidius]

NAME: Sun ELEMENT: Light COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 4 TEXT: Each turn is generated. When killed, generates Nightfall.	NAME: Giant Star ELEMENT: Light COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 10 TEXT: Each turn is generated. When killed, bursts out as a Supernova, leaving a Black Hole in your hand.

ART: Here IDEA: Xenocidius NOTES: An alternative source of , power for Hope shield, with a few thematic twists that provide various synergies. 'Bursts out as a Supernova' means it generates 2 quanta of each element immediately. Funnily enough, giant stars actually do explode as Supernovas, leaving behind Black Holes. I'm a bit unsure about balancing and so forth; thoughts? SERIES:

[Jenkar]

It should have gravity pull. Cuz it's a star.

[Xenocidius]

It should have gravity pull. Cuz it's a star.

That's ... not a bad idea, actually. It would really illuminate (http://instantostrich.com/) the on-death effects aspect of it, as well as weakening it a bit alongside Hope, and adding synergy with Angel and stuff. Hmm ...

[Shantu]

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23799.0.html

Other than that, it seems to be a quite good rainbow card, it even pays for itself.

[Absol]

The image says 4 , but the info in the table says 3 . Which is the correct one?
Also, why is the unupped version and upped version seems too different?

With the card upped, we could make a lightbow denial.
6 Giant Star and 6 Gravity Force as the backbone, replace all QTs with either light or gravity pends, and use the other for mark.
Put the rest of the decks, and you're done. Rush and denial at the same time. (and the extra Gravity Force could act as CC)

[ndclub]

I am a little iffy about it having generate light quanta because that may count as bioluminescence which would lead to hope decks becoming even better. I agree that automatic gravity pull would make it a more interesting card but I am really on the fence about how much I like it, I just feel it doesnt bring anything forward that would make things that much better.

[Hyroen]

I see a slight connection between the absence of a star to produce Nightfall effects, but not enough to warrant the effect. Plus, it's mostly contradictory seeing as during the Nightfall is when you see stars -best-.

Maybe that can serve as better inspiration. At least for the unupgraded version, the mechanics are kinda wonky.

[ZephyrPhantom]

I see a slight connection between the absence of a star to produce Nightfall effects, but not enough to warrant the effect. Plus, it's mostly contradictory seeing as during the Nightfall is when you see stars -best-.

Maybe that can serve as better inspiration. At least for the unupgraded version, the mechanics are kinda wonky.

I agree. It would make more sense for the unupped card to be a Sun, since you can't see it at night.

Upped has interesting synergy with cards that rely on high hp. Does sacrificing the card count as killing it?

[Nepycros]

Immolation makes this a mighty powerful rainbowish card.

[Xenocidius]

I see a slight connection between the absence of a star to produce Nightfall effects, but not enough to warrant the effect. Plus, it's mostly contradictory seeing as during the Nightfall is when you see stars -best-.

Maybe that can serve as better inspiration. At least for the unupgraded version, the mechanics are kinda wonky.

I agree. It would make more sense for the unupped card to be a Sun, since you can't see it at night.

Upped has interesting synergy with cards that rely on high hp. Does sacrificing the card count as killing it?

But ... but ... THE SUN IS A STAR! Fine, name changed.

And yes, sacrificing it does count as killing it.

[LittleFighterFox]

I just don't know why the two cards are so different from each other. And the unupped seems useless.
This page alone there is talk about the various effects of the sun, and while they all seem good not everything can be squeezed into one thing.
I think the nova/hole should replace the unupped effect.

If your planning to make it closer to rainbows, then I think you should lower the ATK|HP and cost.
If your planning to make it closer to rainbows, then I think you should raise the ATK|HP and cost.

I feel (like in physics/life wise) this would fit well with acceleration. Cause near the end it gets larger and then boom! (Though I guess other kill cards will be used.)

[Rutarete]

I think the upped is under-priced and the unupped might be a bit overpriced - both based on their ability. Maybe a cost adjustment of 1-2? for either/both.