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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg384787#msg384787
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2011, 11:41:42 pm »
Well, I'm sure it would be changed if it got into the actual game anyways. Nika's picture gets the theme across for now, thanks a lot! If possible, maybe a bigger dude for the upgraded version? You could actually just make the mountain smaller to make the rockman appear bigger, if that is easier.

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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg384791#msg384791
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2011, 11:52:03 pm »
(http://imgur.com/qYqNk)

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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg384801#msg384801
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 12:48:38 am »
That art is making me hungry... it looks like a giant cookie!  mmmm cookies...

The card looks cool, too, but having a pumpable momentum/shrouded creature is awfully powerful, even if it is in two elements.  I mean, once it got both, NOTHING could kill it.  With immaterial, the only things that can kill it are shields, and with momentum, shield's can't kill it, so it's literally invincible after a couple turns, unless it got poisoned beforehand.  Instead of both momentum and immaterial, I think it should only get one of them, and maybe get something else in place of them.  Adrenaline and vampiric don't make sense on a rock; not sure what else there is to give it, though.  If you were to take one away, I'd take away immaterial.  The momentum makes more sense on a rock than immaterial.

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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg384805#msg384805
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2011, 12:52:24 am »
I put in your original for the Stone, the second one for the Boulder. I think it looks good that way. Once again, thank you!

That art is making me hungry... it looks like a giant cookie!  mmmm cookies...

The card looks cool, too, but having a pumpable momentum/shrouded creature is awfully powerful, even if it is in two elements.  I mean, once it got both, NOTHING could kill it.  With immaterial, the only things that can kill it are shields, and with momentum, shield's can't kill it, so it's literally invincible after a couple turns, unless it got poisoned beforehand.  Instead of both momentum and immaterial, I think it should only get one of them, and maybe get something else in place of them.  Adrenaline and vampiric don't make sense on a rock; not sure what else there is to give it, though.  If you were to take one away, I'd take away immaterial.  The momentum makes more sense on a rock than immaterial.
This is the idea of the card, though. Once it gets going, it's really unstoppable, but it takes a few turns to get going. If you see a Stone on the board, you have 4 turns to remove it before you have to worry about not being able to remove it. If I were to rebalance, instead of taking away the ability, I would require 8 attack before it gains immaterial, or something like that.

By the way, this is a combo you can also get pretty easily by using Quintessence on a Sapphire Charger, though that card can't further pump itself. Momentum + Quint + Otyugh can.

Also taking your idea into consideration Rutarete, but need more opinions before I change the stats.

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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg385146#msg385146
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2011, 11:17:43 pm »
Added a poll to get more thoughts on if anything needs to be changed before I submit it to the Crucible. The two specific things mentioned so far were a decrease in the cost in the upgrade, and a nerf to the Immaterial ability. Please let me know if you agree, disagree, or have other criticism.

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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg386928#msg386928
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2011, 10:50:08 pm »
Well Why not after 6 atk it gains Unstoppable and loses momentum? Or just Unsstoppable and it overwrites Momentum?
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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg386944#msg386944
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2011, 11:39:40 pm »
Well Why not after 6 atk it gains Unstoppable and loses momentum? Or just Unsstoppable and it overwrites Momentum?
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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg386957#msg386957
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2011, 12:26:47 am »
Yeah thats why i said Unstoppable and not anything else


Besides, it fits theoretically.

A boulder going down a mountain would gain momentum and after a while gain Inertia(yes Inertia) and become nearly unstoppable.

Besides, wouldn't momentum give it +1|+1 and unstoppable gain +2|+2 or +3|+3 ( i think +2|+2) so in total it would gain +3|+3 or +4|+4?
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Re: Rolling Stone | Rolling Boulder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30254.msg386973#msg386973
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2011, 01:20:33 am »
Unstoppable gives +1 | +1
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