Charon's Bribe | Charon's Bribe

[Manipul8r]

Found an interesting loophole. What if the opponent kills his/her own creature during his/her turn, when the hand has 8 cards?

I would assume they repay the cost, and if they can't, nothing happens.

[darkrobe]

Found an interesting loophole. What if the opponent kills his/her own creature during his/her turn, when the hand has 8 cards?

I would assume they repay the cost, and if they can't, nothing happens.

well im under the impression that having a full hand and killing your own creatures is impossible. (since you would have to use a card in your hand to kill that creature)

however, your comment brings up a good point about creatures dying of poison. they technically die during your opponents turn i believe. which means that quanta drain resulting specifically from poison caused death (as opposed to lightning or firestorm etc) will not be specifically countered by sanctuary (which protect your opponents hand and quanta only during your turn when you are attacking them). this side effect may boost the use in mono decks now that i think about it. although granted the opponent will have a chance to generate more quanta before before their next turn (because pillars activate after creatures attack) so it wont be a complete form of denial.

[Manipul8r]

Found an interesting loophole. What if the opponent kills his/her own creature during his/her turn, when the hand has 8 cards?

I would assume they repay the cost, and if they can't, nothing happens.

well im under the impression that having a full hand and killing your own creatures is impossible. (since you would have to use a card in your hand to kill that creature)

however, your comment brings up a good point about creatures dying of poison. they technically die during your opponents turn i believe. which means that quanta drain resulting specifically from poison caused death (as opposed to lightning or firestorm etc) will not be specifically countered by sanctuary (which protect your opponents hand and quanta only during your turn when you are attacking them). this side effect may boost the use in mono decks now that i think about it. although granted the opponent will have a chance to generate more quanta before before their next turn (because pillars activate after creatures attack) so it wont be a complete form of denial.

Virus|Retrovirus, or you can Owl's Eye your own creature, or they can die to a Skull Shield.

[darkrobe]

true. but you had the correct explanation. if the hand is already full nothing would happen with the relic. unless anyone thinks it should get played immediately. (relic is technically a 1 quanta spell) so that it could act as bonus quanta denial for filling their hand completely

[TheManuz]

Found an interesting loophole. What if the opponent kills his/her own creature during his/her turn, when the hand has 8 cards?

I would assume they repay the cost, and if they can't, nothing happens.

well im under the impression that having a full hand and killing your own creatures is impossible. (since you would have to use a card in your hand to kill that creature)

however, your comment brings up a good point about creatures dying of poison. they technically die during your opponents turn i believe. which means that quanta drain resulting specifically from poison caused death (as opposed to lightning or firestorm etc) will not be specifically countered by sanctuary (which protect your opponents hand and quanta only during your turn when you are attacking them). this side effect may boost the use in mono decks now that i think about it. although granted the opponent will have a chance to generate more quanta before before their next turn (because pillars activate after creatures attack) so it wont be a complete form of denial.

Virus|Retrovirus, or you can Owl's Eye your own creature, or they can die to a Skull Shield.

Catapult|Trebuchet and Otyugh can also make a kill without emptying your hand.

[darkrobe]

Found an interesting loophole. What if the opponent kills his/her own creature during his/her turn, when the hand has 8 cards?

I would assume they repay the cost, and if they can't, nothing happens.

well im under the impression that having a full hand and killing your own creatures is impossible. (since you would have to use a card in your hand to kill that creature)

however, your comment brings up a good point about creatures dying of poison. they technically die during your opponents turn i believe. which means that quanta drain resulting specifically from poison caused death (as opposed to lightning or firestorm etc) will not be specifically countered by sanctuary (which protect your opponents hand and quanta only during your turn when you are attacking them). this side effect may boost the use in mono decks now that i think about it. although granted the opponent will have a chance to generate more quanta before before their next turn (because pillars activate after creatures attack) so it wont be a complete form of denial.

Virus|Retrovirus, or you can Owl's Eye your own creature, or they can die to a Skull Shield.

Catapult|Trebuchet and Otyugh can also make a kill without emptying your hand.

lol. i get it i get it. i was half asleep when i replied. lol 

[FlareGlutox]

It would probably raise some coding issues, but what about giving the relic to the opponent after he ended his turn, like, after he allready discarded something?
Also shields and poison counters trigger after discarding anyway, so this should be no problem.

Edit: Nah, forget about the first sentence, you could just kill more than one creature in your own turn without emptying your hand to find another loophole in this suggestion.

[darkrobe]

Whoot first of my cardsto go to the crucible!

[Manipul8r]

I think this has amazing flavor by the way.  In my opinion, it would definitely qualify as a champion of flavor in the Idea Factory.

[darkrobe]

I think this has amazing flavor by the way.  In my opinion, it would definitely qualify as a champion of flavor in the Idea Factory.

Thank you. it was a good theme. and we managed to develop a good mechanic. I think it could add a lot to the game. a new denial mechanic in an element that lacks denial of this kind in a way that still fits death. Its one of my better ideas.

[darkrobe]

Please Support Charon's Bribe in the crucible. its a new round and it is currently tied for first.

[FlareGlutox]

Please Support Charon's Bribe in the crucible. its a new round and it is currently tied for first.

Thanks for the reminder, darkrobe. I probably would have forgotten to vote without this.