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« on: December 29, 2010, 06:12:26 pm »
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Diseric
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Diseric
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
ART:
Boret (Card Image), Emeraldtiger (Card Background), TheManux (Mark)
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Simple effect, new concept. This card will randomly pick from your  :aether or  :entropy quanta to cast.  A useful card in duos, but with a few disadvantages compared to it's  :aether version.
It can bypass Immaterial to make up for this disadvantage.
SERIES:
Duality Series : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html
DOMINANT ELEMENT: [/color][/b]
:aether (For categorization purposes like the Bazaar and War, this card would go under :aether.)


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NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Entropy and Aether
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Entropy and Aether
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
ART:
Boret (Card Image)
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Simple effect, new concept. This card will randomly pick from your  :aether or  :entropy quanta to cast.  A useful card in duos, but with a few disadvantages compared to it's  :aether version. 
SERIES:
Duality Series : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html
DOMINANT ELEMENT: [/color][/b]
:aether (For categorization purposes like the Bazaar and War, this card would go under :aether.)

NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Entropy and Aether
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Entropy and Aether
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
ART:
Boret (Card Image), Zblader (Edited Card Border)
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Simple effect, new concept. This card will randomly pick from your  :aether or  :entropy quanta to cast.  A useful card in duos, but with a few disadvantages compared to it's  :aether version.

The card is a duality, and as a result will drain random quanta from :  :aether  and  :entropy

 
SERIES:
Duality Series : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
2 :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 1 damage to opponent.  If you have any :aether or :entropy, deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
NAME:
Chaos Lightning
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
:entropy or  :aether
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Deal 1 damage to opponent.  If you have any :aether or :entropy, deal 5 damage to a random enemy creature.
ART:
Boret (Card Image)
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Simple effect, new concept. A useful card in duos, but with a few disadvantages compared to the normal Lightning to make up for the sync.
SERIES:
Duality Series : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19516.0.html
« Last Edit: September 15, 2012, 06:15:52 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235648#msg235648
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 06:14:05 pm »
Alas, you play a requiem for all the duo-cost cards that have been brought up and died. Good luck getting this into Crucible.
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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235651#msg235651
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 06:16:02 pm »
Heh, including Timerclock's Para-Elemental series? Don't worry, unlike them, I have determination... and a friend with a steam roller.


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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235660#msg235660
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 06:29:35 pm »
Apologies for the double post, but I'd just like to say I want a lot of advice on this card, such as how it would coding difficulties, what can done to fix them, balancing status, and if this card has a chance for making it into the game.  Come on people, let's get duo-cost cards in this game!

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235675#msg235675
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 06:51:58 pm »
For coding, I see the best solution as 1 entropy or aether as the cost, then it drains the other after play.

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235681#msg235681
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 06:56:25 pm »
I think the biggest problem with introducing duo cards is the UI changes involved with making them.

It would imply needing many, many, combinations of new cards to effectively make itself a part of the game. And in the current game, the introduction of even one card from all the Duo combinations would swamp out the entire rest of the card pool, so I say not yet.

Maybe these could be added into the game when the card pool gets bigger, and we can make a big project out of it, but as the game currently stands, there's no point in adding 1 or 2 duo cards when mono cards work perfectly fine.

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235692#msg235692
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 07:06:25 pm »
I think the biggest problem with introducing duo cards is the UI changes involved with making them.

It would imply needing many, many, combinations of new cards to effectively make itself a part of the game. And in the current game, the introduction of even one card from all the Duo combinations would swamp out the entire rest of the card pool, so I say not yet.

Maybe these could be added into the game when the card pool gets bigger, and we can make a big project out of it, but as the game currently stands, there's no point in adding 1 or 2 duo cards when mono cards work perfectly fine.
I never said they needed to be added immediatley.  I just want to propose some good ideas for ones we can add.  Also, duo cards could create new strategies (as I said, I'm planning a series of these).

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235695#msg235695
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 07:08:36 pm »
I know.

But still, there's no point unless like 50+ of them get added to the game, and it will take a while to get all of it organized.

Well, enough criticism, I think the card itself is cool.

Maybe it should take 1 of each rather than 1 of either?

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235698#msg235698
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 07:10:31 pm »
I know.

But still, there's no point unless like 50+ of them get added to the game, and it will take a while to get all of it organized.

Well, enough criticism, I think the card itself is cool.

Maybe it should take 1 of each rather than 1 of either?
It could.  The way it drains quanta for the cost is pretty much up for debate here.  The only reason I made it random is if the cost is an odd number (which element will lose more?).

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235712#msg235712
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 07:39:07 pm »
someone got picky and made me remove my post  :(

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235770#msg235770
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 10:26:16 pm »
cool card and concept, i reckon at some point in time duo cards should be introduced to the game,
but does this card have a 50% chance to do lightning and 50% chance to do chaos seed? or a combo of both?

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Re: Chaos Lightning | Chaos Lightning https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18505.msg235782#msg235782
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 10:45:21 pm »
didnt zanz say somewhere that duo-element cards are a no-no?
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