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Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431833#msg431833
« on: November 28, 2011, 12:11:10 pm »
NAME:
Berserker
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 11
TEXT:
:fire : Rage
Beserker gains +5/-5
NAME:
Elite Berserker
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 13
TEXT:
:fire : Berserk
Elite Beserker gains +6/-6
ART:
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NOTES:
It can effectively cast Rage Potion | Rage Elixir on itself.

This can become a sturdy midrange attacker or a cheap, powerful, brittle attacker. It can also be used with Heavy Armor to allow it to gain more attack.
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431839#msg431839
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 12:35:38 pm »
Reminds me of Red Nymph | Fire Nymph.

Should the game have both? Why?
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431840#msg431840
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 12:37:26 pm »
Red Nymph | Fire Nymph is mostly used as creature control. This is nothing but an attacker.
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431853#msg431853
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 01:31:40 pm »
The Nymph can be used as either or both creature control and a variable attacker.

Should the game get a 2nd Raging variable attacker? Why?
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431856#msg431856
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 01:38:24 pm »
The Nymph can only really have Rage Potion used on it once. And it's not usually worth it, considering how powerful it is as CC and that Rage Potion just makes it more brittle, and considering how expensive a 7|1 creature for 13 :fire is.

Berserker allows the player to choose between a sturdy midrange attacker and a powerful, brittle attacker, as well as being quite cheap. Plus, because it belongs to Earth, it can be used much more effectively with Heavy Armor.

In my opinion it's not very similar to Red Nymph at all, apart from the Rage Potion aspect of it. They are used for completely different things.
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431900#msg431900
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 03:56:58 pm »
Earth already has Graboid...and why is Berserker an Earth creature? High defense? What about Gravity?

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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg431901#msg431901
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 03:58:28 pm »
hmmm.    :fire:earth 

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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg432016#msg432016
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 09:57:55 pm »
A super-brittle 13|1 creature for 4 :earth, 2 :fire and 2 turns? Hardly gamebreaking, in my opinion. Suggestions?
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg432017#msg432017
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 10:03:50 pm »
is there a stash of unused vrt art somewhere?
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg432018#msg432018
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 10:06:41 pm »
There's a folder in his website for Elements art here (http://www.vrt-designs.com/stuff/elements/).

Most of it is just high-res, in-game art that he made or humorous edits of existing art. The only other unused card art of his that I can see is the iceberg one.
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg432023#msg432023
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2011, 10:12:57 pm »
A super-brittle 13|1 creature for 4 :earth, 2 :fire and 2 turns? Hardly gamebreaking, in my opinion. Suggestions?
9|5 for 5 :fire + 2 :earth + 1 card + 2 turns
11|5 for 5 :fire + 2 :earth + 1 card + 2 turns + upgrade

vs

11|1 for 4 :earth + 2 :fire + 1 card + 2 turns
13|1 for 4 :earth + 2 :fire + 1 card + 2 turns + upgrade

hmm
+2|-4 for -1 casting cost. I would have valued +2|-4 at +1 casting cost (or -1 casting cost +1 activation cost).

Remember we are still ignoring Heavy Armor and Quint.
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Re: Berserker | Elite Berserker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34237.msg432026#msg432026
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2011, 10:19:07 pm »
The only other unused card art of his that I can see is the iceberg one.
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