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Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152765#msg152765
« on: September 05, 2010, 08:30:35 pm »
NAME:
Iceberg
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Shield: Reduce damage by 1.  Reduce fire damage by 2.  Generates Freeze every 3 turns.
NAME:
Iceberg
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
:water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
-
TEXT:
Shield: Reduce damage by 2.  Reduce fire damage by 3.  Generates Congeal every 3 turns.
ART:
vrt
IDEA:
jmdt | ratchetspyro94
NOTES:
-The shields reduce fire damage in addition to the 1/2 damage resistance.  This also applies to the effect of Fire Bolt/Lance.
-Every 3 turns you can click on the shield to add a Freeze/Congeal to hand if hand is not full.
-Freeze/Congeal effect becomes active second turn in play.
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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152768#msg152768
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 08:32:51 pm »
new shield idea

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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152769#msg152769
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 08:33:59 pm »
Pssst, J, save your idea on your computer, and post it only after everything is finished. :)) The current version looks a little complicated and may eclipse Ice Shield.

Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152770#msg152770
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 08:35:02 pm »
Pssst, J, save your idea on your computer, and post it only after everything is finished. :)) The current version looks a little complicated and may eclipse Ice Shield.
Actually its my card idea. :/ hes just posting it for me.

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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152772#msg152772
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2010, 08:36:05 pm »
Helps if you fill it all out to begin with :P....how come you couldn't post it yourself ratchet?

Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152773#msg152773
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2010, 08:37:12 pm »
Helps if you fill it all out to begin with :P....how come you couldn't post it yourself ratchet?
Image wont go where i want it to go.  :( :-[
Jmdt has all my card ideas. Theres like 6-7 card ideas that i have.

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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152774#msg152774
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2010, 08:39:47 pm »
Pssst, J, save your idea on your computer, and post it only after everything is finished. :)) The current version looks a little complicated and may eclipse Ice Shield.
I didn't mean to post half finished.  Enter didn't do what I want.

Redium will post the art as soon as its done, which should be soon.

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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152788#msg152788
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2010, 09:15:25 pm »
A few things:

1) The text needs to be much clearer. I presume this is appropriate to your intentions (it would apply to the upgraded card):

Shield: Reduce damage by 1. Reduce damage dealt by attacking Fire creatures by an additional 2. Reduce damage dealt by Fire spells by 3. If targeted with Deflagration / Explosion, deals 20 damage to opponent. Generates Congeal every 3 turns.


2) The cost of this shield needs to be higher. I suggest increasing casting costs to 6 / 8 Water Quanta and having the generation of Freeze / Congeal cost an additional 1 Water Quantum.


3) The name "Iceberg" is not very good at all. There is no conceivable reason it should be a shield, let alone a generator of Freezes. I would recommend a name that evokes an item name and an "icy generator" of sorts. (Just this once) you can steal a name of one of the spells from my card game: Ice Cradle. I think that works better. Or just Icy Generator for that matter.


4) This card is clearly anti-Fire and should be balanced by giving Fire an anti-Water card of equal power. The way to do that would be creating an offensive spell that is destructive (Fire's tendency). Maybe something like "Volcano" which destroys 3 Water Pillars / Pendulums AND deals 2 damage to all enemy creatures. Casting cost of 8 / 6 Fire Quanta.

Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg152790#msg152790
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 09:23:57 pm »
A few things:

1) The text needs to be much clearer. I presume this is appropriate to your intentions (it would apply to the upgraded card):

Shield: Reduce damage by 1. Reduce damage dealt by attacking Fire creatures by an additional 2. Reduce damage dealt by Fire spells by 3. If targeted with Deflagration / Explosion, deals 20 damage to opponent. Generates Congeal every 3 turns.


2) The cost of this shield needs to be higher. I suggest increasing casting costs to 6 / 8 Water Quanta and having the generation of Freeze / Congeal cost an additional 1 Water Quantum.


3) The name "Iceberg" is not very good at all. There is no conceivable reason it should be a shield, let alone a generator of Freezes. I would recommend a name that evokes an item name and an "icy generator" of sorts. (Just this once) you can steal a name of one of the spells from my card game: Ice Cradle. I think that works better. Or just Icy Generator for that matter.


4) This card is clearly anti-Fire and should be balanced by giving Fire an anti-Water card of equal power. The way to do that would be creating an offensive spell that is destructive (Fire's tendency). Maybe something like "Volcano" which destroys 3 Water Pillars / Pendulums AND deals 2 damage to all enemy creatures. Casting cost of 8 / 6 Fire Quanta.
1) I see your point.  :)) Some people are simple minded like me.

2) I dont think the card needs to have the cost changed. The card generates a Freeze/Congeal every 3 turns it wont need a cost 1  :water quantum.

3) Iceberg sounds just fine to me. I came up with the card name.

4) I didnt see this as an Anti-fire card.  ::) Thanks for noticing that.  :))

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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg160356#msg160356
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Re: Iceberg | Iceberg https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12243.msg160846#msg160846
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2010, 10:37:27 pm »
Instead of having it generate a card [something more suited to  :time or  :aether I think] why not give it a Freeze ability that has a cooldown?

I like this card!
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