Round 5-Strategy

[lava golem]

Our next matchups:

  kevkev60614
  Amilir

  brettbstock
  killsdazombies

  Hyroen
  hainkarga

  Stinnger
  Wizardcat

  Lava Golem
  Implosion

  Acsabi44
  10 men

  jmdt
  Slim8stack

  catalyzeme
  PhantomFox

  majofa
  Dreggs

[brettbstock]

Our next matchups:


  brettbstock
  killsdazombies

 

Oh, crud.

This should be fun.

(insert 'Terrified' emoticon here)

[majofa]

No longer a work in progress. These have all been tested and we have the cards to support them all.

  kevkev60164
  Amilir

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  Slim8stack

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  hainkarga

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  Dreggs

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  implosion

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  10 men

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  Phantomfox

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  Wizardcat

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  killsdazombies

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[lava golem]

It seems gravity has revealed it's whole vault already, life has as well, maybe we can guess what they'll use?

[Acsabi44]

Acsabi44
  amilir

its actually acsabi v 10men

[brettbstock]

It seems gravity has revealed it's whole vault already, water has as well, maybe we can guess what they'll use?

[Hyroen]

Feel free to include the brand new symbol.

[Acsabi44]

  plays 30 card decks so the wings stalldeck definitely comes to mind.

More later.

Oh, crud.

This should be fun.

(insert 'Terrified' emoticon here)

I loled, you are the best out there.

[kev]

It seems gravity has revealed it's whole vault already, life has as well, maybe we can guess what they'll use?

Agreed.  Each salvages 6 from last round's wins, keeps 6 from last round's losses, and had a few spare cards in their vault, but it's very they'll use all of the previous round's winners this round.

Gravity:

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Life:

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Just a heads up: I misunderstood a rule in a pretty big way.  Last War if we had 45 fire cards but 120 cards overall, we fielded three decks because we could only field three legal decks.  This War we'd have to field four decks because we have 120 cards and that's the only thing that's considered.  We'd have to field one deck with zero fire cards, and it would auto-lose.  SG just added a rule that we could write "ILLEGAL" in the decks thread for that round to avoid being penalized for using an illegal deck, but it's still an auto-loss.

The repurcussions of this change are enormous.  After s/d/p/c from Round 4, we'll have about 52% fire cards in the vault.  Losiing a deck with 50% fire won't impact future decks, but losing a mono-deck means we're more likely to have to field an illegal deck down the line.  There's honestly not much we can do to avoid it at this point.  Where we can use 50% fire decks we should do so, and we should try to get as many fire cards as we can in s/d/p/c.  This will help us minimize the need for a suicide deck.  Also, we should keep winning. 

I'm going to look at matchups now.  jmdt proposed using 4 immo decks and 3 nova decks if we can, and I'd love to see that or something close to that happen.  It's just a matter of allocating those decks.

[Acsabi44]

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I would definitely try something like this vs Underworld.
Once you manage to lay the first Wings, if the opponent doesn't have perma control, then its GG.

[kev]

Overall when deciding between novagrabby and immophoenix the first thing I look at is what type of CC is appropriate.  Against life, for instance, the freezes and BBs in immophoenix are less useful due to the possibility of adrenaline.
kevkev60614 vs Amilir and Acsabi44 vs 10 men
Currently thinking 1) No Land Stompy (which would mean we couldn't use Vreely's) 2) immophoenix, 3) RT deck modded with more deflags

We tested a deck like this but it ended up a fool's errand:

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Stinnger vs  Wizardcat and Lava Golem vs  Implosion
I wish I had more experience talking to xdude.  My first instinct was it's time to break out Dragon Powa.  But Light has been sporting am impressive amount of Fire cards.  They used and won with two miracle/fire bolt decks last round.  My hunch is that xdude will guess his EQ deck scared us away from bolt decks.  So maybe the best thing to play would be a bolt deck.  But they have an EQ deck they've used every round including a win last round.  They lost with a discord duo last round.

Maybe the better route is to go after their quanta.  Devs are not the best option since two of their decks have firestorm, but...
Final recommendation:  a duo with either discords or EQs might work.  I honestly wouldn't mind sudden killer or Dragon Powa here though.

Hyroen vs  hainkarga and jmdt vs Slim8stack
Knowing your opponent has a 30-card deck should be a big advantage, but I'm not sure we can capitalize on it.  There's a bunch of problems with the Wings deck Acs proposed, including they may be using PC, flying creatures, poison, and/or direct damage.  It's just a stab in the dark here, but I think we could face phoenixes as we've had some trouble dealing with them in this War and they lend themselves to rainbow immo decks easily.

If we are up against a rainbow deck, our RT deck would be killer.  We lost with it last round but could rebuild it.
Final recommendation: RT deck and immophoenix.

brettbstock vs killsdazombies
Final recommendation: Novagrabby

catalyzeme PhantomFox
Final recommendation: Novagrabby should own.

majofa Dreggs
Looking through their Round 4 decks, it looks like

they played one EQ deck and one rainbow grabby voodoo deck against us, and lost bothagainst them we played one rainbow deck and one wings deck that was resistant to EQswe lost two bolt decks last round and won with four decks that had immo or novathey have 7 rewinds and 1 eternity for sure from last round's winnings alone.

Looks to me like we should be much more concerned about RT than EQ.  My first instinct was to recommend the wings deck again.  They may be out of stone dragons and may be running low on PC.  They won with a flying arsenic in Round 3, and then lost with a deck that had 5 poison and 2 arsenics last round.  So the flying arsenic deck may or may not still be around.  But I'm hesitant to use wings on them in two consecutive rounds.  Meh.

Final recommendation: Sudden killer or Wings deck with -4 fspirits (they're used in No Land Stompy and our 2nd grabbynova).

[Hyroen]

With a vault of 240, for everyone in Team Underworld to play their decks will have to be 30 cards. This can be their undoing. Stall them and it's done as Acsabi44 mentioned.

jmdt and I might want to go with stalls of some sort, and with 3 copies of any card in a deck, the most they can pack is what, 3 Deflags, 3 Butterfly Effects and 3 Pulverizers as permanent control?

The Wings deck Acsabi44 shows is a very good shot.

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