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Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg204988#msg204988
« on: November 20, 2010, 04:23:42 am »
Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
5 earthquake
2 duskmantle
1 vampire stilletto
4 basilisk blood
4 flying weapon
2 fog
3 discord
3 lycanthrope
6 nova
6 water pendulum (from water match, there was no salvage, so will discard)

Discarding
27 burning pillar
4 fire pendulum
3 aether pillar
2 aether pendulum
10 firebolt
4 deflagration
2 farenheight
3 crimson dragon
5 freeze
5 reverse time
6 dimensional shield
1 nova

Penalties
6 water pendulum (penalty for for water match after deadline)

Converting
4 precognition
8 aether pillars

Convert to fire pillars.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg204993#msg204993
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 04:38:42 am »
Will update again after kev's match

Salvage:



skydaemon
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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 591 591 591 591 591 591 593 593 593 593 593 595 595 595 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5ur
lokiburn4
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593 593 595 595 595 595 595 595 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5ur 5us 5us 5us 5us 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv
hrmmm
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5c5 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on
10 men
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 5up 5up 5up
Demagog
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4vj 4vj 4vj 55t 55t 55t 55t 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 590 590 590 590 595 595 595 595 595 595 5f6 5v0 5v0 5v0 6u3 6u3 6u3
Discard:



majofa
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f7 5f7 5f7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7
hyroen
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk
Acsabi
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg204996#msg204996
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2010, 04:46:26 am »
Salvage:



Skydaemon: 5 earthquake, 1 dusk mantle.
- going forward, earthquake is one of the most powerful cards we can have.  If the opponent is not packing immos or novas, earthquakes will completely dominate them.  For the 5th card, we have the choice of BB or mantle.  since we have 6 devs and 3 steals in the vault, grabbing a dusk mantle makes sense here.

lokiburn4: 1 stilletto, 4 BB, 1 dusk mantle
- Stilettos are great splash cards.  BB are good multipurpose cards.  this will give a 2nd dusk mantle for a potential future darkness duo.

hrmmm: 2 fog, 2 owl's eye, 2 shockwave.
- fog shield is a great fit in any of our rainbow decks.  Since we already have an air duo, picking up OE and shockwave makes sense

10 men: 3 discord, 3 lycanthrope
- The 3 cards of use to us are discord, lycan and steal.  Discord is a game changer so I say we take it.  We have a few steals, so I say we go with lycans to add to our rainbow decks.

Demagog - 6 nova
- novas are the backbone of rainbow deck.  We should take this opportunity to grab 6 of them.  Graboids would be nice, but novas are where its at.

Discard:



majofa - 11 burning pillars, 6 firebolt, 1 deflagration, 1 farenheight, 5 freeze.
-keep 2 farenheight and 4 pillars.we're down to 2 farenheight, so we must keep some somewhere. 

hyroen - 9 burning pillar, 4 fire pendulum, 3 crimson dragon, 3 deflagration, 5 reverse time.
-keep 4 phoenix, 2 pillar.  Phoenix are our most important attacker.

Acsabi - 7 fire pillar, 3 aether pillar, 2 aether pendulum, 6 dim shield, 4 fire bolts, 1 nova, 1 farenheight
- keep 2 firebolt, 1 reflector, 3 fire pillars. we need the reflector and 2 bolts to keep 2 working bolt decks.

Convert:



4 precognition, 8 aether pillar to 12 fire pillar.
-We will never use those precogs now and quite frankly we have more aether pillars than we have decks.

Please give opinions on these suggestions.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg206258#msg206258
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 06:50:52 pm »
We need to figure this out megafast so we'll know what to work with regarding round 5 decks.

discard:
majofa: 6 bolts, 6 freezes, 2FH, a deflag, 9 pillars
hyroen: everything but 3 RT, 3 phoenix.
acsabi: 13 non-fire cards, a farenheit, 3 bolts 7 pillars.

I'd avoid discarding lots of pillars as we already had a hiatus in round 4.
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg206264#msg206264
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 06:59:19 pm »
We need to figure this out megafast so we'll know what to work with regarding round 5 decks.

discard:
majofa: 6 bolts, 6 freezes, 2FH, a deflag, 9 pillars
hyroen: everything but 3 RT, 3 phoenix.
acsabi: 13 non-fire cards, a farenheit, 3 bolts 7 pillars.

I'd avoid discarding lots of pillars as we already had a hiatus in round 4.
We may not need to salvage that many pillars actually.

We have the ability to field 7 rainbow decks this round (4 immo decks and 3 nova deck) out of 9.  If we go this direction, the net number of needed pillars will actually be pretty low.

I'll have to work on decks as I play with the 6 cards we keep to see which will be most advantageous.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg209134#msg209134
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 10:33:47 am »
Cards to keep:

acsabi: 2 firebolt, 1 reflector, 3 fire pillars.

majofa: 2 farenheight, 4 fire pillars

hyroen, 4 phoenix, 2 fire pillars

Opinions?  Fire pillars are becomming scarce so we need to keepas many as we can.  Phoenix are invaluable, we have few farenheight left and need the 2 bolts for 2 full sets to run both poison bolt and dial bolt.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg209144#msg209144
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 11:12:24 am »
So how do we deal with the Nilsie match?  Do we ignore it, or salvage 6 cards from it and then discard as penalty?  I assume we ignore the match here, but I wanna make sure to do this right.

I updated the 1st post, but someone please check my math.  Numbers get fuzzy at 6 AM.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg209382#msg209382
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 07:58:18 pm »
As usual, great job jmdt.

I have only one change: I'd like to salvage 4 animates instead of 2 OE and 2 shockwave.  This will allow us to keep the flying arsenic idea alive.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg209391#msg209391
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 08:20:27 pm »
The first post is ready to go hyroen when you want to update te vault.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16003.msg209434#msg209434
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 10:14:56 pm »
Vault updated to reflect s/d/p/c

 

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