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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465250#msg465250
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2012, 09:50:17 pm »

1) This card does not add anything new to Fire except another card. CC Resistence? Go Phoenix for the 3to1 trades. High attack to card ratio? Go Dragon. Both? Go Lava Golem.

2) The brief immateriality does fit the Light element. Thematically it is divine protection. Elementally it is included in the "ignoring the opponent" theme Light has.

3) This ability (brief immateriality) is suboptimally implemented. It would have a much greater beneficial impact on the metagame if it were a mono card that bestowed the protection on a target creature. (cheaper temporary Anubis/Aether Nymph)

Conclusion: It is Fire's turn to get a card but this was not a good selection.

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465252#msg465252
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 10:02:21 pm »
I don't understand why this card is for Fire... Fire is the best element in game. Why we buff the best element with new card? It isn't fair. Life, Water, Air, Light - there are more important elements to buff...

Card is fine, very powerful but no OP. Problem is that this card is for Fire.
Like napalm and others have said, fire REALLY needs the variety after so long. at the moment, if there playing a fire deck, you know exactly what to suspect in the first two turns.
That being said, i do agree with others, fire does need a new card, but this wasn't the best choice.  I would prefer more variety then just straight attack, but oh well. 
Hopefully we see the other elements getting new cards before this is released.
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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465264#msg465264
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 10:37:40 pm »
I'm having mixed feelings about this card.
I feel it's nice thematically, but... it's not adding a lot to the game.
I'm a little sad because we have a lot of good suggestions in the card idea and art and we never get one into the game, but i guess this is up to Zanzarino.

I don't know, i guess new cards always give mixed feelings.
However, the art i wonderful!

I'll wait until it makes it into the game.

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465266#msg465266
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2012, 10:41:50 pm »
#omegareaper7 - but when You play against for example LifeDeck You also know main strategy Your opponent. Variety in Life is bigger than in Fire? Frog or Cockatrice - the biggest variety in game against Life ;) All elements has got 3-4 main strategies. Problem is when some elements has got much better strategies than rest. Fire has got probably the best strategies... (the same like Darkness or Entropy).

I didn't play this game since month (only Oracle +1-2 FG matches) because this game is boring... We have got 12 elements, so we should have thousands of game types. And theoretically we have. Practically in Arena most of decks are the same decks, and the same Elements. Have You ever played in Platinum 5 matches in a row without Fire decks, Nightmare, Poison or Rainbow deck? Probably no... And what we do now? We add next fire card. Some players which play today Water, Life or Air deck think "why I must play with deck without PC, without good creature except expensive dragon, I change my deck into Fire".

Card is good as is (art is fantastic), but why it is Fire card - I can't understand...

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465277#msg465277
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2012, 11:07:13 pm »
Eh. Nice art and concept, but I don't think this offers much to Fire that it doesn't already have. It seems to be a bit weak card for it's cost - I'd rather just GoD.
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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465286#msg465286
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2012, 11:39:47 pm »
I like this a lot.  The upgraded version is scary. :)

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465302#msg465302
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2012, 12:17:51 am »
Card is good as is (art is fantastic), but why it is Fire card - I can't understand...
it is fire because this:

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465309#msg465309
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2012, 12:48:10 am »
The thing I don't like about this is that it seems to obsolete phoenixes and dragons. It's more efficient than either, and can also protect itself as well.

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465344#msg465344
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 02:06:56 am »
I like it, but do we need more powerful creatures to fire?

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465362#msg465362
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2012, 03:13:09 am »
I too am a big fan of Fire, but this just doesn't seem to do much in the way of enhancing the game... not like it would in other elements...

nice card, just maybe not the perfect place for it...

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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465390#msg465390
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2012, 04:51:57 am »
The very reason people are downing this card is the reason i like it. Not every card needs to completely change the meta. In fact, it throws everything off when cards do that. Each shard destroys the meta enough, we dont need fire doing that.

I like the card, if anything it adds more variety in creature choice. The hard part is it surviving that 1 turn, but then you should have no problem with it. Sanctuary_Firestal_this ftw
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Re: Seraph | Seraph https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37074.msg465398#msg465398
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2012, 05:38:40 am »
I like the card, if anything it adds more variety in creature choice. The hard part is it surviving that 1 turn, but then you should have no problem with it. Sanctuary_Firestal_this ftw
Variety in creature choice? This is, at best, a more expensive Phoenix (at worse, a less expensive Dragon).
Also, I'd never replace a Fire Tower, a Sanctuary, a Miracle, a Reflective Shield, a Fire Lance, a Rage Elixer, a Fire Storm, a Fire Shield, or a Deflagration for a Seraph. Seraph is just too fragile the turn it's out to reliably aid in a win-condition, while the cards currently in Firestall are far more reliable.
Last but not least, it's hard to truly synergize with a card that only affects itself, and I'd rather have a card that creates new combos take the role of "a new [Fire] card."

 

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