Turns to Win (1.32)

[RavingRabbid]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AiwMGGakrptadFRzcG51WUNzdkZyR1RtRDB1a2g0SGc&single=true&gid=4&output=html

[RavingRabbid]

These stats are not collected vs AI3. They are instead collected vs an opponent that doesn't kill creatures and/or heal. This is an attempt to measure the actual speed of a deck.

[Luminous]

Been waiting this for a long time.
Thanks, RR.

[Hannal]

41 tests?  It makes my eyes burn.     Especially with all of those nice round numbers for all the other tests.

[RavingRabbid]

41 tests?  It makes my eyes burn.     Especially with all of those nice round numbers for all the other tests.

I like being atrocious.

[Acsabi44]

I should really get my hands on dem sobras.

[RavingRabbid]

I should really get my hands on dem sobras.

Zanz should really get his on them, instead.

[RavingRabbid]

I need you to provide me some decks to test.

[Gandora]

Explode this Damsels

[deuce22]

These stats are not collected vs AI3. They are instead collected vs an opponent that doesn't kill creatures and/or heal. This is an attempt to measure the actual speed of a deck.

if this is the case, speed will often be slightly faster with losing toss since you will have 1 extra card per turn compared to winning toss.

I'm assuming you are recording data regardless of win/lose toss.

[Laxadarap]

Are you actually testing these, or a program? Thinking it is you, but just in case, ai won't cremate pheonixes for immorushes (not sure if any of those decks have them)

EDIT: I would like to submit this for testing:

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7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7du 7du 7du 7du 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7nq 7nq 7nq 7nq 8po

Did a 26 game test vs this:

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808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80b 80b 80b 80b 80b 80b 80e 80e 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g 80l 80l 81q 81q 81q 81q 81q 81q 81q 8pu

Preliminary results: Had 7 whole losses, 4 4 turn, 1 5 turn, 1 6 turn, then a loss with horrid RNG (hand was 1 rol, 5 cremation, 1 sofree, drew no sobe or MP/seraph before I died, took it out of the TTW because I couldn't estimate when I would have won.

TTW: All of the losses except for the bad RNG one, I would have won the next turn (some were below 5 hp), so I counted that as a win for one higher turn.  Excluding the bad rng one, I have a 25 game TTW of 4.32.  I put that bad RNG loss at a 10 turn win, and it comes out to 4.53 turns.  Slow wins were due to bad starts for ai (1/2 quanta starts).  Also, electrocuter slightly trolls phoenix ability, but I don't think it changed anything.

TL:DR  25/26 game test with TTW of 4.32/4.53.

Spoiler for actual data:

4, 5, 3, 3, 5L, 5L, 4, 4, 3, 4, 5, 4, 5L, 5L, L bad RNG, 5, 5, 3, 4, 7L, 6L, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4

[Acsabi44]

TTW: All of the losses except for the bad RNG one, I would have won the next turn (some were below 5 hp), so I counted that as a win for one higher turn. 

A loss is not a win. 
If I lose 99 games then win one in 3 turns, then the TTW is not "something arund 4"