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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1111274#msg1111274
« Reply #420 on: November 23, 2013, 12:33:00 am »
Indeed. I have nothing to do with this whole thread but, thanks anyway. Saved me from doing the tests for the last two decks -- Although I may still run a 50 game sample of my own. 150 game samples beat 100 game samples any day.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1111565#msg1111565
« Reply #421 on: November 24, 2013, 03:45:15 pm »
Was dubious about the high win rate for the current top Silver upped deck "Silver PSNBow" : http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46057.0.html

From experience it seemed to fail sometimes on quanta problems and certainly wasn't a slam dunk win for the other games.  So, grabbed some stats :

Vs Silver Arena
W: 36
L: 14
WR: 72%
EM: 5
TTW: 6.8
TTL: 9.1

3 of the losses were total quanta failures, e.g. no Supernova, or no Entropy Pendulum in time to get started.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1111587#msg1111587
« Reply #422 on: November 24, 2013, 05:29:33 pm »
Some stats I've taken over the last couple weeks or so in Silver:

Wrecking Ball (as shown in OP)
W: 40   L: 10   WR: 80.00%   TTW: 10.05   EM: 1/40   EMR: 2.5%   UEI: 2828.69   SSPH: 4.60

Pitchblack Hole (as shown in OP)
W: 78   L: 23   WR: 77.23%   TTW: 8.41   EM: 13/78   EMR: 16.67%   UEI: 3798.47   SSPH: 4.98

Wrecking Ball (modified by Captain Scriba)
W: 81   L: 20   WR: 80.20%   TTW: 9.68   EM: 12/81   EMR: 14.81%   UEI: 3423.96   SSPH: 4.81
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Also, the OP is now updated with all valid stats posted through this post. Again, many thanks to all of you who submitted tests recently. Please let me know if I missed something or typoed something or anything.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1111592#msg1111592
« Reply #423 on: November 24, 2013, 05:58:29 pm »
New test  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/deck-help/death-claw-%28darknessdeath%29/msg1102534/#msg1102534)

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WINS: 43
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112037#msg1112037
« Reply #424 on: November 26, 2013, 06:39:13 pm »
Took some stats on speed poison, because it seemed to have less data, and because I believe that the Gold league has been adapting to include more counters against Poison / Shard of Sacrifice decks.  After all, it is fairly easy to counter them with Purify, Miracle, or heavy quanta disruption.  I bet the win percentage for the current top Poison Dials deck for gold is also now lower than it used to be.

Speed Poison Kamikaze http://elementscommunity.org/forum/duo-decks/speed-poison-kamikaze-(gold)(plat)/
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Vs Gold
Wins : 26
Losses : 24
EM : 5
TTW : 9.8
TTL : 10.5
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112351#msg1112351
« Reply #425 on: November 28, 2013, 04:02:25 am »
Bronze:
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W: 137   L: 15   WR: 90.13%   TTW: 6.36   EM: 33/137   EMR: 24.09%   UEI: 3007.11   SSPH: 7.58
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Silver:
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W: 114   L: 37   WR: 75.5%   TTW: 6.94   EM: 13/114   EMR: 11.4%   UEI: 4218.5   SSPH: 5.66
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W: 29   L: 72   WR: 28.71%   TTW: 7.41   EM: 2/29   EMR: 6.9%   UEI: 5939.14   SSPH: 2.88
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Also did ~20 tests in gold with essentially identical results to plat, so I didn't continue to a full test.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112397#msg1112397
« Reply #426 on: November 28, 2013, 07:17:18 am »
Hey Colorless Green,
Could you do a verification on Malignant Balls for me for Gold and Plat.  It doesn't do as well in Plat as it once did... but in gold last I check it was still doing over 75% WR, my last 25 games with it today were 20W 5L 16 EMs, 14 TTW, 4 Spins...  I don't think anyone ever did a 1.32 Arena study on it. 

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112398#msg1112398
« Reply #427 on: November 28, 2013, 07:48:26 am »
Hey Colorless Green,
Could you do a verification on Malignant Balls for me for Gold and Plat.  It doesn't do as well in Plat as it once did... but in gold last I check it was still doing over 75% WR, my last 25 games with it today were 20W 5L 16 EMs, 14 TTW, 4 Spins...  I don't think anyone ever did a 1.32 Arena study on it.

Yeah, I'll put it on the list, but it may be a little bit until I get to it as the account I'm currently testing with is missing a lot of the required ups. Do you just want the fully upped version in the OP of your thread?

edit: Actually just to be sure I test the right thing, would you just post the version you want tested in here at some point? No hurry or anything as like I said it'll be a bit before I get started.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112409#msg1112409
« Reply #428 on: November 28, 2013, 11:51:05 am »
Queen's Desire
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Wins: 94
Loss: 6
Win%: 94 %
TTW: 9,628
EM: 6

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Wins: 35
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Wins: 37
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112571#msg1112571
« Reply #429 on: November 29, 2013, 02:30:52 pm »
Submitting this for testing after two consecutive special spins in Silver. I only ran into two Monoaethers though, one which ran out of shields, one which I lost to (by 6 HP :O). Still, fast EM goodness :>
I might do some proper testing for it tomorrow.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112613#msg1112613
« Reply #430 on: November 29, 2013, 08:24:03 pm »
Was surprised not to see a Mono Air in the top 5 for Upped Silver, so I thought I'd take it for a run.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1112614#msg1112614
« Reply #431 on: November 29, 2013, 08:36:21 pm »
Higu's USEMosis, or Neo-usem, whatever you wanna call it.

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Win : 35
Loss : 15
EM: 12
Win Ratio : 70%
EMr: 34,2%
TTW: 7,3%

I was lucky and even had five (!) one HP matches. Needless to say, mono aether is a sit and pray situation.

 

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